Did Marvin Hagler dare to be great?

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Did Hagler dare prove to be great?

  1. Yes, you can prove to be great in 1 weight class

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  2. No, you have to move up. Broner dared to be great. Hagler didn't

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  3. Golovkin hater here, this one's got me stumped

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What were they? Were they legit, no catchweights? etc
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    First offer 8 mil at 155
    Second offer was for 10 mil + PPV at 160 offered just a few months ago
    Third offer was for 15 mil at 160 a couple months ago

    For the record, no B side in the history of the sport save Pac has ever been paid 15 mil for a fight, let alone rejected such an offer.

    For contrast, Canelo made 5 mil against Floyd, and 5 mil against Cotto in a fight that generated 900K PPV buys.
     
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  3. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hagler was great to watch.
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would be interested to know the other side of that. Im sure there must be a reason its not accepted as I think GGG was after the fight.
    Be interested if anyone has any info as to why if this is the case?
     
  5. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't use alts. I just find it humorous you make all this effort to post a bunch of times in this thread, yet ignore and cry alt when being asked real questions. If this crap is beneath you, you have an odd way of showing it by posting a bunch in it.
     
  6. IsaL

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    You would think.. But Golovkin has the reputation of making negotiations harder. Look how much it took just to get the Jacobs fight. If its not a weight issue with Ggg, its a money issue. Ggg wants all the cards stacked in his favor, he wants everything to be as he wishes, and in boxing it just doesn't work that way. Most if not all of the great fighters have had to sacrifice something, whether it is weight, or purse, but they do. Ggg doesn't do that.

    Pacquiao gave Hatton 1 mil out of his own purse just to get the fight made.
    Canelo settled for 5 million against Cotto's 15 million.
    Hopkins accepted 8 million for his fight against the biggest cash cow of his era.

    The examples are endless.
     
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  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nobody cares. Fight your mandatory. Fight the best. And STFU.
     
  8. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The third offer was NOT from a couple of months ago, liar. The earliest mention of that was around Dec 20th, which came as 3G and Jacobs were finalizing their fight. You are about as guillible as they come Isal.

    Everyone basically said the 155 fight offer, and 10 mill NO UPSIDE offer were jokes. Except you and probably el chicano.

    That last offer of 15 mill should be given, if serious, after the Jacobs fight. Loeffler will not enter negotiations while his man has a fight scheduled. That's how he does business, as do many others.

    Of course, saying all this to you is pointless. You're the guy who said Liam smith would be 3G's best opponent to date FFS!!
     
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  9. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    3G does not have a rep of making negotiations harder. Jesus christs.... Loeffler is actually known to be very accommodating and easy to work with in negotiating fights with other promoters.

    You are basing 3G being difficult to work with because he didn't accept any of GBP's "offers". F*ckin idiot....
     
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  10. Manfred

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    I must have missed something because

    I must have missed something, are you saying that Hagler is not great?
     
  11. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    regardless of the names the point is you don't have to move up to be great,

    throw the names in and wooo some people get emotionaaaaaal
     
  12. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dumbasses on this forum think you have to move up to be great. These fools also think guys move up because they want to test themselves. LOL....stupid little kids these days. They say the darnedest things!
     
  13. pincai

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    Fighters don't have to move up to be considered great. But there are some who did that really because they are dare to be great. Case example:
    Oscar could have stay at 140 and rules forever, instead if moving to 147 to meet killers like Tito Whitaker quartey. Even if he moved up because he can not make the weight anymore, he could still pull a canelo and avoid them.
    Tito didn't have to enter middleweight tournament. He was such a favourite over Hopkins that there were a preliminary talks to face Roy jones.
    Leonard faced every freaken body around his weight classes, facing the arguably the best lightweight in Duran, one of the best junior welter in Benitez, the best super welter in hearns and arguably the best middleweight in Hagler.
    I only listed a few that I thought were major stars that didn't really have to go through what they did but did it anyway.
     
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  14. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    Also true, there is more than one way to be great
     
  15. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm well aware of the history of those guys, having watched most as they were fighting still. But with today's fans, especially on this board, you MUST move up to prove greatness. And that's a huge fallacy.