Does anybody agree or can see how Ramirez vs. Pea 1

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    was scored the way it was? Did anybody else score it that way?
     
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    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look at who promoted whom.
     
  3. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it was a blatant robbery. Ramirez was a WBC favorite (Mexican) and the fight was promoted by Ramirez's promoter - the Acaries bros. Acaries bros probably gave Suiliman a nice pre-fight check.

    Ramirez was aggressive, but his aggressiveness was largely ineffective.

    I had it 116-110.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I just found a scorecard a posted years ago for this fight.

    I had it 117-111 for Pea.
     
  5. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    No, had Whitaker 9-3 or at worst 8-4.
     
  6. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My uncle hates Pernell Whitaker with the sort of passion that only a Mexican can feel for a someone who fights going backwards and even he scored the fight for Whitaker. Ramirez ' s mother even thought Pete won that fought.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I had it 116-114 Ramirez. Justice was done.
     
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    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, that makes you and two blind judges.
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I too had Ramirez winning.
    He tried to make it a fight, and was not any less effective than Whitaker.
     
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    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Seamus wanna change your mind?
     
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  11. Montezuma

    Montezuma Mandibula de Cristal Full Member

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    I had it 7 rounds to 5 for Whitaker. Whitaker definitely showed his inexperience in the later half of the fight when Ramirez came on strong. The fact that Ramirez won it by split decision was not the worst decision I have ever seen but the judge who had it for Ramirez by that wide score was off his head. I just re-watched this fight today based on this thread.
     
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    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    rd 1 - Whitaker
    rd 2 - punch wise slight edge to Whitaker but Ramirez more agressive, makes it about even.
    rds 3,4,5* - Ramirez
    rd 6 - even
    rd 7* - slight rd for Whitaker. Could be even as well ue to agression by Ramirez.
    rd 8* - close rd 4 Ramirez due 2 agression. Punch wise n even rd.
    rd 9 even, but could be given 2 Ramirez due to agression and Witaker resort 2 clinching in z end.
    rd 10 even, quite similar 2 rd 9
    rd 11 similar but i gave it 2 ramirez due 2 pernell's clinch on z hip
    rd 12 - Ramirez


    matter 4 thought : it is hard to notice a hit when target is recoiling and retreating voluntarily, yet it is still a hit.
    also mind u, Ramirez was 30 yo and probably past his best by then.
    Rematch in 1989 was an increase of advantage in favor of Pernell.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    So you've got it for Ramirez by 4-6 rounds if i guess right?
     
  15. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow, suffice to say, my card isn't close to this. You're one of kind Frank