Heavyweights. Old timers vs modern.

Not all modern day heavy weight are unfit and over weight either. They wouldn't all be gassing after a few rounds.

 

But your just using a few heavy weight s from today. I'm talking in general. In a title fight Joe Louis v tyson for example. Marciano v Holmes. Floyd Patterson v tua. U no who wins these fight s

 

So its a skill disparity ?

You simply said modern guys are too good too big. I listed out loads of big modern guys who clearly would not stand a chance against Joe Louis from the 1940's.

What about Wilder? Does he beat Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey?

 

What exactly did is say that is not a fact?

If you don't like examples from the blog fair enough. Let's use examples of new heavyweights not from the blog.

Joseph Parker against opponents under 240 pounds 7/7 100% KO rate, over 240 pounds 10/15 66% KO rate.

Derrick Chisora: under 240 pounds, 12/19 64% KO rate, over 240 pounds, 6/14 42% KO rate.

Wladimir Klitschko: under 240 pounds, 34/41 83% KO rate, over 240 pounds 18/25 72% KO rate.

Tyson Fury: under 240 pounds, 9/12 75% KO rate, over 240 pounds 9/13 69% KO rate.

Dillian Whyte: under 240 pounds 11/15 73% KO rate, over pounds 240 4/6 66% KO rate.

Mike Tyson, Ali, Shavers, Norton, Brewster all struggle to KO heavier opponents because they have more punch resistance.

If I throw a small pebble it will hurt less than a large stone.
Speed of muscle contraction x weight behind punch = power
Facts back it up, be in denial if you want. Until you comment and prove otherwise end of discussion.

 

Why did you post that for a second time? Is it because you were unable to answer the question?

Are you going to duck the question again and post it a 3rd time?

 

There will very soon become a time when professional boxing follows Olympic boxing and appropriately separates the heavyweight division into HW and SuperHW.
It should have been done years ago.

 

I actually think Joe Louis loses to a lot of 80s champs. I don't think dempsey would have survived against 90 s guys. The modern day guys have skills and added weight. Also do u see such as a jack roper, tony galento or Billy conn beating pinklon Thomas or razor ruddock. It works both ways

 

You're generalising and are avoiding straight forward questions. Does Louis beat Wilder , Dilian Whtye and Derrick Chisora. Yes or no?

 

Heavyweight division in amateur boxing = Cruiserweight division in pro boxing
Super heavyweight division in amateur boxing = Heavyweight division in pro boxing

There's no difference, just semantics.

 

The 1980's beat every modern day HW in lob sided fashion.

Holmes vs Parker
Wilder vs Mike Tyson ???

 

It's all in the name - Cruiserweight limit is 200 pounds, Olympic Heavyweight limit is 201.

That jump doesn't bother me, but the 25 lb jump from LHW to Cruiser seems a little excessive if we're talking about getting the most out of the talent pool. I wouldn't be opposed to bumping Cruiser up to 205 or 210 if it didn't mean widening the (IMO excessive) gap from LHW to Cruiser even more.

 

No.
In amateur boxing there is heavyweight, which although it is max 201, has a limit, and Super Heavyweight which has no limit.
In Pro boxing, it doesn't make sense to give unfair size/weight advantage by mixing HW with SHW.
As the advantage becomes even more pronounced, and it will, this will definitely be changed.

 

So basically, the upper limit in amateur boxing is 201 pounds, and in pro boxing the limit is 200 pounds. So still the same damn thing. Thank you.

 

Your generalising by picking a few random not so skilled heavyweight s. And to be honest I think Louis could lose to some of these guys. Joe was great "for his time," but things have moved on. Heavyweight s have got bigger and stronger. And the champs from the

 

You keep avoiding the question like you have something to hide.

Does he win those fights or does he lose? Its a simple yes or no answer?