Can Marciano beat 240lb fighters?

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    This is quite plausible too. There are so many options for special fighters once you get past the Spinks experiment.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Tua was much bigger boned, thicker jointed than what the pictures of Rocky show. I know this has been gone over before but Tua, who I have seen live numerous times, is just a lot bigger structurally that this guy... http://totallyhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Rocky-Marciano.jpg
     
  3. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Yeah I think Tua is naturally bigger, but not by much.

    Tua at 200lb isn't shredded to the bone.
    Rocky in that image is.

    Tuas body is like Galento.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    He'd take out loads just the way he was.. Is Alex Leapai meant to win just cos he was 250 pound? Rocky makes short work out of that man. All 190 pounds of him.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    He wouldn't get the fights the way he was.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I don't have his bone measurements so can't say so myself.

    Who would have thought Toney could compete at HW after he'd been battered around the ring by Tiberi?
    Much stranger things have happened.

    Rocky wouldn't be the first to add weight as he moved up a division and he sure wouldn't be the last.
     
  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Toney was a slick defensive specialist and a great counter puncher. That style can still work to some effect, tho not great effect, in the modern division.

    Stumpy, short, slow-footed attrition punchers, on the otherhand, do not succeed in the modern division.
     
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  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    No all this talk of Tua being some extraterrestrial specimen has been exposed as complete poppycock. He simply is another in a long line of artificially enhanced short guys that could not possibly have existed as we knew them before the Spinks experiment.
     
  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather fights nothing like Marciano, for one he has the right dimensions to move up weight successfully and two he's one of the best if not best defensive fighter of all time.
     
  10. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look what George Foreman did to Joe Frazier, a fighter that had quicker hands and quicker feet than Marciano. Rocky just hasn't got the style to be fighting these big power punchers.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    Slow footed compared to the LHW men he faced, not compared to the fighter he would be facing in these fantasy fights.

    Pacquiao moved from flyweight to welter, he isn't a slick counter puncher.

    There's lots of examples through history. If he wanted to be a HW today he'd have to weigh more.
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    The point is many people change styles as they move up in weight.

    Rocky wouldn't be the first to follow suit.
     
  13. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather really didn't, neither did Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Toney, Jones Jr......
     
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    Tale Of The Tape

    Tua Marciano
    49" Chest 39" =10"
    51" exp 42" =9 "
    19.5" Biceps 14" = 5.5"
    15" Forearm 12" = 3"
    22" Thigh 30" =8"
    19.75" Calf 14.25" =5.5"
    19" Neck 16.25" = 2.75"
    11.5" Fist 11.5" Same


    Seems a pretty huge disparity to me

    If Rocky was standing directly behind Tua ,you would not be able to see him.
     
  15. BCS8

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    One of the reasons I like him over modern HW's is precisely because he keeps up the pressure, constantly, without giving the other guy a break. I guess we just see differently on this. I like Marciano just fine as he was, I don't need him to be Tyson ;)
     
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