Name for name: Carl Froch resume vs Joe Calzaghe resume

Everett Martin is #1 P4P of all time, then! He faced everybody!

 

and solid logic by you to miss the main point, else you'd have no reply .

 

This thread has become comical.
So who had the better resume
Carl Froch or Sakio Bika?
As Froch is rated for his resume including losses

Bika fought Ward before Froch
Bika fought Bute before Froch
Bika fought Calzaghe
Bika fought Beyer
Bika fought Dirrell (the brother who won a world title)
Bika fought Periban

What about D Boone?

Watch for the answers

 

I notice nobody could answer this and it completely shut the thread down

 

I've always valued someone's resume mainly on their victories.

 

I have seen the fight. It was a disgrace.

Reid was beating Ottke to the punch throughout the first 7 rounds yet any time he landed anything significant the referee would jump in and warn him about something - and usualy for nothing - Ottke failed to land anything significant for the first 6 round and was constantly appealing to the ref to come in interfer.

It was a legit knockdown. Reid caught Ottke with a punch and Ottke went to the floor. That is a knockdown. That the referee did not rule it a knockdown does not meant that it wasn't one.

Are you honestly saying that because the referee was warning him for headbuts and low-blows Reid was guilty of using them? Most of the so called "headbutts" were Ottke jumping close when Reid was leaning forward to dodge or look for an opening, forcing Reid to stand up while Ottke was leaning over him. In most fights these would be classed as accidental clash of heads - in this fight they were called deliberate.

There was one low-blow the entire fight coming in the 9th round. I have no problem with Reid being warned for that. It didn't look deliberate but it was a low-blow. The problem was that Reid was getting warned thoughtout for body punches which were no where near the groin.

Reid got warned for hitting Ottke on the back of his head when Ottke was moving away from him in the middle of a flurry of punches, yet the referee did not warn Ottke when he did the same thing later in the fight - both times were accidental, only Reid got warned for it.

When Ottke lead with his head and ducked right down into Ried's abdomen the referee warned Reid for leaning on Ottke, and when the roles were reversed Ottke did not once get warned for leaning over Ried though he did it just as much.

The one thing I agree with you on is that Reid was lucky not to get disqualified - because the Referee was totally biased, completely on Ottke side, giving him every advantage and preventing it being a fair fight.

 

veit was top ten in an unrecognised organisation that pushes dead men up their ranking tables. no wonder veit, as crap as he was, got in the top ten. he beat 36 year old shot brewer, who wouldnt outclass him?

Also he never won no wbo crown. Veit never had the abiltiy to win a title even in a fledgling division like smw, even in an unrecognised org like wbo. thats how lowly he was.

finally beating braehmer is no big deal, he been basic ever since he started boxing and has never improved. if thats a boast, you are counting very small potatoes.

basically theres no weight to anything you said. even a tv show boxer like bika, who showed he was good enough to actually briefly win a title, can be considered much better than veit.

 

but he had a title. viet didnt. bika wasnt much but he did have to to scrape a title. u are making a fake comparison.

Veit was terribly mediocre, but the one thing I agree with you about him is that yes he was one of joe calzaghes best wins.

 

Don't do drugs, kids, because this is what happens ^

The referee was so biased against Reid in the Ottke fight it's not even funny. I'm surprised he didn't pull out a bat and join in.

 

now you ask, its worth more than NOT being able to win an unrecognised one. This is true however you try to work it.

viet did not have a world title. why do you keep claiming he had one. He was never world class.

a win over a 36 year old about to retire man seeking a retirement cheque is better than a win over a prime contender? get over yourself.
Get over yourself about brahmer too, he was mediocre and always will be.
Salem? A joe cowardzaghe staple nobody? give over.

yeh bika is limited, so? what does that prove?

 

veits not really world wbo title as good as a wbc one? you are just talking BS. why do you feel the need to do that?
And why do think people will listen?

calzaghe was a nobody until he fought lacy and kessler, in his mid30s.

Braehmer was never a world champion.
WTF with these lies dude?

salems not absolutely terrible but hes hardly a claim to fame. If you are trying to sell viet on salem , you know somethings wrong already.

not much more, but more than superviet who never won anything for sure.

 

When Degale beats Jack on Saturday he has a better resume then both.

Trust me on that.

 

So you are basing some of Veits complete SMW achievements on what you think was winning a round before losing a round 10/8 from a KD. That tells me how ridiculous your posting is. Also How did you see Veit winning round 5 before the KD. Thats also rubbish. Veit wasnt doing bad but was being beaten in that round. Pushed back and outlanded.
Do I have to bring it up and make you look foolish like it has been done before by others when you have made these statements

It wasnt ruled a KD. I wouldnt have had a problem had it been but it wasnt and the fight went on and Woodhall pushed Beyer making it a close debatable fight. Woodhall was chasing Beyer around the ring and had Beyer in trouble at the end.

 

so you forget that Beyer was having to hold on to win a close debatable decision in a close fight where Calzaghe was well ahead and stopped Woodhall. Try and rewrite it but you cant

 

So explain how you have Calzaghe at 4?
This will be good lol

All that and no G Catley who beat Beyer in Germany by KO and some felt deserved a decision against Woodhall, beat Lucas in Canada and some felt beat Haussler

Who did Ottke beat as good as Eubank, Kessler? Arguably Lacy when undefeated