will Canelo's stock drop if he continues to fight guys like Smith?

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    What does this have anything to do with who has the better resume? That's your problem you're always bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with the topic and think that you're making some great point. I asked you who has the better resume not your opinion about the whole canelo ggg scenario.
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Don't you mean your nurse? I realize that you're getting senile grandpa but that lady who comes in every night who brings you a glass of milk and tucks you in is a nursing home nurse.You don't have a maid.
     
  3. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excuses? WTF are you even trying to create here? Good lord.... this is the type of teenager logic you are still stuck in, and will probably never grow out of Isal.

    say what you want, but you are so assf*cked hurt over 3G, you actually tried to say Liam Smith would be 3G's best opponent, if they fought. That's how deluded you are.
     
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  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I see both sides. Nelo has by far the better CV and up until GGG that was by choice. He demanded the fights that ODLH thought were risky and didn't want him to have. He deserves credit for that.

    That said he did duck Golovkin when he became the lineal middleweight champ and that heavily hyped Kazakh became his mando.

    The offers up until now have been silly, ISAL seems to be having difficulty with understanding that 8m at a catchweight is a bad offer in light of 15m at the full weight and that a potential split offer as you'd expect to be offered might be even more lucrative. Sure it might not but then GBP save themselves some money so why they duck would they care?
     
  5. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On account of him fighting Floyd Mayweather who he lost to so badly it was unreal and the next best I'd say was Lara who many thought did enough to win,I don't actually but regardless those fights are in the past when Canelo was admired for taking challenges,the Canelo of late is a different Person don't you think?
     
  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he does fight this guy at 154 I'll be well up for the weigh in as its not PPV,Canelos weigh ins are far more exciting than his recent opposition,there'll be no VADA testing either if it's at 154 and you can flag this up if I'm wrong?
    Lol his last weigh in was awesome he came out grumpy as hell and dry as **** but yet again the master weight cutter shaved off his beard,dropped his pants and was on the button at 154.
    The guy is a true professional
     
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  7. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I get everyone will have opinions on things but how is offering a guy 3 to 4 times more than a guys ever made considered silly?
    What amazes me is how everyone says Canelo isn't the draw he think he is, yet think it's 20+mil available for GG in a fight.
    People claim biggest fight in boxing yet leave out that right now the biggest fight could be 400k and would still be the "Biggest Fight".

    Realistically if they fight say they bring in double their PPVS numbers vs each other that's still only 900k sold, people year flat fee but don't look realistically at what the fight would actually do.
     
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  8. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I hear ya, so let me do my best to explain how I see it.

    Firstly everything is relative - if say the pot was huge and it turned out that Golovkin's flat fee was a only a rather small percentage of that then he'd have been a fool to accept that considering he'd always got a better split of previous purses despite them being smaller. Do you follow?

    If they're willing to pay 15m now for a fight at 160 that proves that the 8m offer for 155 was total garbage.

    By the same logic of saying it's a career high payday so it's automatically a great deal K2 could offer Canelo 15m as a flat fee and he'd have to accept but nobody would consider that a good deal for Canelo despite him earning a considerably bigger payday than he's ever got before. It'll be a career high payday for both men, what needs to be sorted however is a sensible split.

    That's how I see it. I don't care how much I paid for something when I'm selling it I care how much it's worth. Golovkin is applying the same principle here to negotiations and GBP must think there's plenty in the pot to think it's in their best interested to offer Golovkin such a high flat fee. If they're both wrong and the money there is less then they win anyway by not paying him as much so why not make a split offer?
     
  9. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    That was what they said, but it was clear what they were doing. 25% was the going rate for a mando in a fight like this which seems to fall in line with what Golovkin's team want. If this fight does happen Canelo is going to end up coughing up more than 25%. Also Pacquiao is the highest paid boxer.
     
  10. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    There's a point where you can't go any lower. Canelo is pretty close to that already.

    But it's just the promoters protecting their investments. Why would you flip a coin and possibly lose it all instead of going for a guaranteed 65%?

    It sux for boxing fans but we'll probably migrate to UFC.
     
  11. layco1996

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    Hahaha, just shows how childish you are. Pulling out the "Floyd bought the judges" card, get real kid, come back when you have proof not speculations or personal opinions.
     
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  12. layco1996

    layco1996 Member Full Member

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    That's not what Forbes said for 2016, so you know more than Forbes. OK
     
  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Thank you.
    But honestly, what else is there to say?
     
  14. layco1996

    layco1996 Member Full Member

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    Once again, show proof not speculations or personal opinions. If you don't like the man, that's fine but bring proof that shows without a doubt he was cheating.
     
  15. layco1996

    layco1996 Member Full Member

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    LOL, so Cotto, Floyd, Lara, Trout, Mosley don't mean a thing.
    You're just a keyboard warrior calling a man that fights for a living a coward.
    I would agree if Canelo would have called GGG and dropped the belt and had never mentioned or answer questions about a GGG fight but why would they go out of their way to make a deal and negotiate. You have the weirdest logic solving mind.