Floyd Mayweather NEVER DARED TO BE GREAT

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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    He's an ATG imo, but in no way shape or form could he bother Floyd at 130.. just too big, too quick, too good!
     
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    Disagreed about the ATG, he's not close. And of course he wouldn't have beaten Floyd at 130. He would not have won 1 round and would have been knocked out early, VERY EARLY!!
     
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    I tend to agree with you here, MVC.
     
  4. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    The truth shall set the world free of ***** shackles.
     
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    Oh.
     
  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    this thread got legs
     
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    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sig worthy.
     
  8. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One of my biggest beefs with Floyd was, he didn't try to unify any divisions. He was fine getting his belt, and moving on. When there's 4-5 belts in each division, that take major lustre of being a multiple division champ. Look at his son Broner...4 division champ already? Shows it can be garbage too.
     
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    Havoctka New Member banned Full Member

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    You got that right hes pissed he lives I
     
  10. Champagne Popping

    Champagne Popping The TRUTH is the TRUTH banned Full Member

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    In your dreams maybe. Why did he he never fight him then... .?

    Margarito was all wrong for that boring featherduster. Mayweather always cleverly chose fighters past their best or made them move up a division. But he was even scared of a shot Margarito lol. If he lost plenty of rounds to an average plodder like Maidana hes gona be losing rounds and getting hurt against a beast like prime Margarito.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    First PBF was 37 when he fought Maidana he wasn't prime like he would have been when a PBF-Margo fight would have happened so stop it.

    Second Margo and Maidana fight nothing alike Maidana is a much more skilled than Margo that's not up for debate.

    Third read this artcle which destroys your argument even further alt:deal:

    http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382

    Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

    Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

    "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."
     
  12. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, he beat lineal and partially unified champions at WW and JMW and did ultimately unify against Pacquiao at 147lbs. In essence, his fight with Corrales was a unification at 130lbs, since they were number one and two at the weight, and were both undefeated titleholders who had never lost their respective straps in the ring. So that;s three out of five weight divisions where he established clear primacy. Castillo was regarded as the clear divisional number one at 135 and any real challenge to Mayweather's subsequent claim went by the wayside when Spadafora took himself out of the mix. That leaves JWW- and neither Hatton nor Cotto were all that inclined to face Floyd at that point in their respective careers.

    So, in general he was pretty thorough about consolidating whatever claim he had on any particular division.
     
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  13. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It does lmao. It effects Mannys legacy worse when you apply the same logic. Let's talk about when he fought the following:
    Oscar (dehydrated zombie)
    Hatton (right after getting KO'ed by Floyd and put on ***** Street by lazcano)
    Cotto (damaged goods, catchweight, have to include ring age due to close clotted fight as well)
    Shane (post old overnight, ring age and actual age included)
    Margarita (coming off a loss, damaged goods from Shane, rehydration clause, ring age)
    Barrera (war torn slightly, Mannys best win but still, were using your covenant ring age that matters most lmao)
    Morales (war torn, dehydrated and weight drained, coming off a loss, significant ring age lmao).
    See how I did that. Now go **** off.
     
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  14. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    He dared to be rich, not a bad choice if I don't say so myself.
     
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  15. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    At-or-near prime.
    Oscar doesn't count. Hatton was back at his prime weight class and was doing well against the opponents in between and it was just a dominant blowout by Pac. It would've happened every single time.
    Cotto didnt make the weight great vs Clottey (most underrated fighter in recent times) but Cotto confirmed after the fight that he indeed had no problems making weight. Cotto was huge and a WELTERWEIGHT, a former lineal flyweight is meant to DIE against a very good welter. Cotto also went on to succeed a lot after that fight.
    Shane doesn't count.
    Margarito was tailor made for Shane Mosley, it was Mosleys last hurrah..a massive 1.5 years before Mayweather fought him. Pac was 144lbs at the weigh in, outweighed by 6lbs and Marg has a huge frame and rehydrated to near 170 - Margarito had his moments but it was overall an eerie level domination so your argument has no weight.
    Barrera still had more than enough left in him in the tank, he was at-or-near prime and an ATG. He went on to beat Paulie Ayala AND Erik Morales the ATG straight after, your argument is MOOT.
    Morales was past prime, but still relatively near prime. Coming off a loss - Morales had no business at 135 during that time, stylistically Pac was very different to Zahir Raheem and Morales was doing well in the fight until he got blown out of there.
    Pacquiao is a former Lineal Flyweight champion, a Roman Gonzalez, a Naoya Inoue...ending up DOMINATING Cotto and Margarito and Clottey - huge guys.
    You **** off, you're the one who came to me crying.