I had degale winning 115-112

Jack for sure, the knockdown edged it. Degale's face tells the story.

 

Just by having a to and fro discussion clearly shows it was never a robbery. No clear winner just subjective scoring based on what you see/like

Jack had two or three clear rds and a knock down the rest are down to interpretation.

 

I watched the fight but didnt score it but one thing i noticed was degale just didnt seem quite as sharp as usual.
Floyd made a joke of himself post presser, i mean did you hear the guy.
"No one knows boxing as much as me. I eat sleep and **** boxing"
He didnt even know the judges scorecards in his fight vs canelo. Someone had to shout it out to him.
Hes embarassing at times is floyd.
Degales the same tbh.

 

Which rounds? Outside the first 2 rounds your gonna struggle to find them where badous aggresion wasnt effective.. It was degale who,s aggresion wasnt effective throughout. Jack was hitting him with clean punches every round. Jacks punches also had far more effect on degale than vice versa. He also blocked most of degales shots. He actually didnt take much clean all night.

People can have their opinion but if you score that fight round by round using the 4 things your meant to. Effective aggresion. Defence. Clean punching and ring generalship. Badou wins every single round barring the first 2. Even if you were going 10-10 with every round that was close and disregard that jacks punches were cleaner and harder which they were...we re still talking 4 points maybe even more. That fight was a clear robbery.

Its time judges started handing out 10-8 rounds without knockdowns. Its the only way to stop guys taking a beating and then still winning a fight. There was 3 or 4 rounds jack hit him with something like 15 hard punches more in a three minute round and worked him over. Thats a pretty big gap. Especially when a lot of degales shots were partially blocked.

To be clear i ve not done that when scoring the fight but it would solve a lot of the problem.

Brook v porter close fight. Groves v jack. Close fight. Could have maybe went either way.

Jack v degale...a robbery. I just dont see how scoring by the 4 things they do round by round you can make it a draw. Jacks aggresion was more effective every round. His defence was better every round. His punches were cleaner every round. Even his ring generalship was better every round barring the first 2 rounds.

 

Scoring it round by round the draw is ok with me. As a fight though, Jack clearly got the best of it so it's a shame for him.
Also have to say Degale has balls so big if they collided with the earth they could cause a global extinction.

Obviously want a rematch, I think Degale could do better if he kept it long and resisted fighting on the inside (see first couple of rounds).

 

Callum Smith would have wiped the floor with these jokes... the top 2 at super middle but if they moved up to light heavy they wouldn't be in the top 10 .. say no more!

 

I think jack basically drags you into that kind of fight. Degale moved all night and still got tracked down every round.

 

If anything the stats favour Degale.. Landed + Missed.. depends on the criteria scored..


Froch against Kessler in his fights often threw more alone than Kessler threw and landed combined etc..

 

I had it to Jack by a round, really good fight.

 

The robbery claims are nonsense really. This is why Floyd Mayweather is going to be bad for boxing as a promoter. It was a great fight, and a close one as far as point scoring goes.

DeGale's flash KD in the first round counts for 2 points. DeGale's face being bashed up at the end counts for 0 points. It's a shame for Jack because I think he deserved to win. That's boxing though. The point scoring system isn't perfect, and so sometimes we need rematches.

 

I ask people to go back and score the fight round by round using the 4 parameters on how their meant to score a round....

Effective aggresion
Clean punching
Defence
Ring generalship.

You ll struggle to give degale anything after the 2nd. Think he might have had a half decent 3rd or 4th but barring that including round 9,10 and 11. You cant score it for degale. Not on the four parameters your meant to. Jack bettered him on every one of the four aspects in every round.

He actually didnt take that many clean punches all night...whereas on the other hand degale took plenty. Jack was landing harder than degale was and cleaner. He backed degale up every round. It really wasnt a close either way fight. Degales aggresion wasnt nearly effective enough.

I actually think for once mayweather is spot on.