Canelo Glass Heart Alvarez. Why should we even care about this fighter anymore?

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  1. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Doubt Canelo fights GGG this year. I reckon BJS will be next. I was very high on BJS for a minute and predicted he would be the man a couple years ago that would beat GGG. Since then I'm weary because like Chavez Jr, I question his training habits and dedication to his craft now. But I think GBP will continue to play a war of attrition and smartly so. The name of the game is money and according to Forbes, Canelo earned the most money even over Pacquiao last year. I think the fight will take place no earlier than 2019.
     
  2. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    I used to think the same way untIL some poster linked the correspondence and the financial document of the golden boy promotions. Once I saw how little money they make, how much Schafer hurt them financially and how many of their fighters are below thw profitability line, I understood the situation better. Canelo can't fight a prime Golovkin. GBP business would fall apart. He has to stall, wait for time to weaken GGG, while also building up the anticipation like the pac/may primadonnas did. I am not saying I support this, but I do understand this.
     
  3. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    To me, decapitate implies that a person has their head helplessly held in a block while the blade comes down. A very one sided interaction. When they fight, Golovkin may win, but I doubt it will be as easy as you suggest.
     
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  4. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I think it will be announced in late 2017 and happen early 2018.
     
  5. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No matter how much fans gripe and moan, you can't risk your entire promotion company on 1 fight.
    Golovkin should have taken the 15Mil!
     
  6. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gomez was on record saying 3G is the plan for Sept 2017. I'll give him and GBP the benefit of the doubt, and see what type of offer comes after 3G Ko's Jacobs.

    Of course, there's the slight chance Chavez jr messes the plan up.
     
  7. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There was no official 15 mill offer (Unless someone has a source). It was just something GBP said they offered, and fat dan picked up for his tweet. Unfortunately, making an offer when a fight is just signed makes little to no sense, especially when considering 3G's promoter and manager aren't going to discuss another fight until the Jacobs fight is done with.
     
  8. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    You might be right, I love hyperbole.
     
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  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is a coward.I stopped watching a longtime ago.
     
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  10. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    Butthurt much?

    He's already equaled Gomez' record 17 championship title defenses by KO.
    Jacobs will be number 18.

    He should join Hopkins by the end of the year.
    And all by KO !
     
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  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Probably true, but you have to be skeptical about those Forbes wealth lists. Someone was just telling me about a new richest people in the world list they put out and I was like, they didn't include the Queen of England, The Sultan of Brunei, various middle eastern kings and princes, the pope, the Indian and Chinese billionaires, the chicks that own walmart, the women that own bmw and mars bars, that Australian mining heiress, Steve Jobs' wife, etc. I'm saying that Forbes makes mistakes.
     
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  12. trumperZ06

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    :risas3: As usual... Isal doesn't know NOTHING ABOUT BOXING !!!

    :bandit: Cocaine O$car/GBP first offered GGG 8 million flat fee... REJECTED

    GBP/El Pollo Canelo raised the offer to 10 Million... REJECTED

    Cocaine O$car and the NOT READY FOR MIDDLEWEIGHT Canelo raised offer to 15 Million... REJECTED.

    ;) K2/GGG playing HARDBALL waiting for a legitimate OFFER including a reasonable split of PPV revenue.

    :BangHead: Your FAT BOY... Canelo has now signed to meet Cavez jr. at 167.5 lb. catch weight for NO BELT and will be known as

    " THE BATTLE OF THE QUITERS" !

    :applaudit:Put a little SALT on your CROW... Isal... may make it easier to SWALLOW !
     
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  13. shadow111

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    It's hard to comprehend that Martinez got injured and lost his Middleweight Title to Cotto, it's hard to comprehend that Cotto would defend that title at catchweights, then refuse to pay the sanctioning fee and essentially hand the title over to Canelo.

    It's hard to comprehend that the WBC would make Golovkin a mandatory for the winner of Cotto vs Canelo before that fight even happened. It's hard to comprehend that the WBC would give Canelo a 15-day limit following the Khan bout to agree to terms or strip him of the title.

    The World Middleweight Title has been passed around like a hot potato ever since Martinez got hurt vs Chavez. Canelo didn’t want to vacate the title, the WBC was working through Golovkin to force Canelo to agree to his terms.

    While it sounds great to say Canelo cowardly handed Golovkin the title, in reality the WBC did that, they handed Golovkin the title without having him fight for it. They did that, which is CORRUPT AS ALL HELL to hand someone a title without having to fight for it LOL.

    That’s an embarrassment for Golovkin. To hold a title without having won that title in the ring. It’s a joke, Canelo was never a Middleweight. The guy is a Light Middleweight, who has made the biggest fights out there available and dealt with whatever boxing politics confront him as a result.

    Any rational boxing fan should be embarrassed that Golovkin calls himself WBC Champ without ever having fought for the title in a vacant state.

    The WBC should have allowed Canelo to hold that title for up to a year, but of course as we’ve discussed, the WBO wouldn’t have allowed Canelo to capture that title vs Smith with Canelo holding a Middleweight Title so that’s another reason why it’s vacate.

    Golovkin should be embarrassed to hold that WBC Title, he never won it, he was handed that title by a corrupt WBC who completely disrespected Canelo’s ability to make the Golovkin fight as Champion. Lets call a spade a spade, the WBC and corrupt boxing politics gave Golovkin that title without having to fight for it. Not Canelo. Canelo was not going to be dictated to, he was completely disrespected, he rightly dropped that title and won the WBO title in his weight class 154-lbs.
     
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  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We have ourselves a Comedian here. Golovkin was declared the Mandatory Challenger BEFORE ? Cotto / Canelo?

    A Mandatory was declared Before TWO People Fight?

    Is this a standard practice in boxing? How often is a Mandatory established before TWO people fight?

    Isn’t a Mandatory declared to force the “Champion” to fight a specific opponent?

    Why wasn’t Cotto mandated to fight Golovkin? It seems to me a Mandate was declared when Canelo Cotto was announced. Meaning before Canelo was scheduled to fight for that title, there was no mandatory. Once Canelo signed to fight Cotto, Bam all of a sudden the winner is mandated to fight Golovkin? Then Cotto doesn’t pay the sanctioning fees.

    So by the week of the fight Canelo was embarrassingly handed that title by Cotto. Essentially Cotto vacated it by not paying the sanctioning fees, lessening his chance to win the bout and also refusing to be mandated to fight Golovkin. So while Cotto did everything he could to avoid Golovkin, Canelo did everything he could to fight Golovkin.

    Canelo in fact never said Mexicans Don’t **** Around. What Canelo said was misinterpreted by the translator. Canelo in fact used a spaniel phrase that does not translate to English as Mexican’s don’t **** around. It’s astonishing the lengths that have been made to make Canelo look bad.

    Golovkin was made to be the mandatory fighter for the winner of Canelo/Cotto to fight, before Canelo even became champion. Boxing politics were at work with the WBC title, and it was clear that Cotto was a 154-lber but was able to beat an injured Martinez.

    The boxing politics in play have affected your view of Canelo, and Canelo detractors are using this type of thing. One thing you cannot dispute is that Golovkin is certainly NOT the Lineal Middleweight Champion. He shamefully was in cahoots with the WBC to get Canelo stripped of that title, so Golovkin wouldn’t have to fight him.

    Golovkin would rather be handed a title illegitimately. This man GG is terrified of Canelo. Gets titles handed to him without having to fight for it lol. Using boxing politics to get titles, to think you deserve belts handed to you without having to fight for it in a ring. Canelo would never take a short cut like GG did to capture a world title. What a coward of Golovkin to accept a World Title through boxing politics without winning it in the ring. How can you call yourself a Champion under such a scenario? TO be Champ you have to Win a Title. There’s only one way to win a Title and that’s in a Ring. GG didn’t do that is an illegitimate champion.
     
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