Sometimes we forget what a legend this guy was

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Bulldog24, Jan 13, 2017.

  1. Jobless Jarman

    Jobless Jarman Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2015
    Messages:
    477
    Likes Received:
    19
    Some people play the wanker for commercial reasons. He just is a deluded wanker and so is his son.

    Had some good fights but had more shocking defences and hometown decisions. Not a patch on the likes of Collins.
     
    Canning and mcvey like this.
  2. DannyBhoy

    DannyBhoy Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2016
    Messages:
    728
    Likes Received:
    289
    Had a good career and done a lot for the sport in this country. Can still make me laugh but his egotistical delusions are not quite so amusing now that they're getting in the way of his son's career and robbing the fans of top fights.
     
  3. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    6,280
    Likes Received:
    5,188
    I d say to people when your talking about eubank to go back and watch some of his fights against benn etc as a reminder. The level of skill in them grit determination is something to behold. I mind when we were comparing skill levels on here with eubank v benn and froch v groves going back and actually watching the benn eubank one. Its like night and day and groves froch one was a good fight.

    Jones. Toney etc were a bridge too far but we re not exactly talking about regular boxers here. The level in terms of skill really was that much better back then. Changed up nowadays with a lot of it being about sport science so hard to compare them head to head etc but the skill level was tremendous. Eubank was top class.
     
    pow likes this.
  4. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2012
    Messages:
    4,824
    Likes Received:
    2,983
    Just because Eubank was a good fighter doesn't mean people have to like him personally.
     
    bbjc likes this.
  5. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2015
    Messages:
    8,108
    Likes Received:
    8,923
    Yes i saw that, it was during the gloves are off the Super middleweights, with RJJ JC Ritchie woodhall and steve collins.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2006
    Messages:
    98,361
    Likes Received:
    30,165
    Defending a WBO title against the likes of:
    Sam Storeyx2
    Dan Schommer
    Dan Sherry
    Mauricio Amaral
    Ray Close
    Henry Wharton
    Ron Esset
    John Jarvis

    Does not make you a legend.
    A legend in his own mind no doubt.
     
    Jobless Jarman and BlackCloud like this.
  7. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    6,280
    Likes Received:
    5,188
    Eubank doesnt do himself any favours but what people fail to realise is a lot of the guys he beat even a lot of the guys that were running about with 5 or 6 losses back then would still be able to compete no problem with todays top ten imo. There wasnt many mugs back then most of the guys could really fight.
     
  8. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2012
    Messages:
    27,258
    Likes Received:
    18,350
    Don't know why you've included Wharton on that list.
     
  9. crixus85

    crixus85 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2014
    Messages:
    1,806
    Likes Received:
    1,638
    Well, after all, he was the self proclaimed "simply the best!"
     
  10. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2010
    Messages:
    5,748
    Likes Received:
    3,768
    Certainly a legend here in uk..
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2006
    Messages:
    98,361
    Likes Received:
    30,165
    Wharton's the best on it ,but who did he beat ?Nardiello who'd been stopped 4 times?
     
  12. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2012
    Messages:
    27,258
    Likes Received:
    18,350
    The eye test plus his spirited showings in his losses against top drawer opposite suggest he wouldn't of disgraced himself with anyone had he been given the opportunities to fight more world class opponents.
     
  13. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2014
    Messages:
    4,948
    Likes Received:
    4,127
    I think prime Eubank beats all three.

    Collins got him towards the end, Calzaghe also profited of the name.

    Could have finished Carl Thompson but chose not to.

    Awesome power and swagger, ever the showman and entertainer. Granite chin.

    Boxing ATG in my opinion.
     
  14. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2016
    Messages:
    7,197
    Likes Received:
    14,789
    Haha.

    He was 29 when he fought Collins, 31 against Calzaghe, 32 against Thompson. That's when a fighter should be in his prime.

    I'd excuse his defeats to Thompson as he stepped up in weight and Thompson was just too big and powerful for him.

    Eubank was a show man, a real entertainer, quality to watch...but he wasn't a world class fighter. He was crafty in avoiding fighters that would wreck him. Now he's doing the same for his son.
     
    Jobless Jarman likes this.
  15. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2014
    Messages:
    4,948
    Likes Received:
    4,127
    He let his own demons get the better of him towards the end of his career and seemed to loose interest. He should have stopped Thompson in the first fight (and Collins) and was ahead against him in the second before the stoppage. Calzaghe fight was at short notice. I think Eubank is his own worst critic and plays on his modesty, in his prime was a fearsome beast. Chin, heart and punch were world class.