115 is by far the strongest divison in boxing

"IF THEY WERE MW" they couldn't be the same fighters, so mehh

 

Is sizeism an issue in society today?

I saw some of that Strongest Man in the World circus over Christmas. Very, very sizeist event. Even the short fellows were absolutely enormous.

In boxing even mediocre heavyweights have always been able to drawn a big crowd. "The Richest Prize in Sport".

It seems that small guys don't get much kudos anywhere no matter how good they are.

 

Holy lord has failed!!!!
No ONE in their right mind that knows anything, everything and even nothing (most know nothing except the history) could possibly ever have 29 TWENTY ****ING NINE figherst P4P better than Spence
Having Thurman dsg and broner level fighters ABOVE Spence in a p4p sense is ****ing asinine. Clearly we have posters that have NO idea what they are watching. Spence is a legendary talent and so far superior to every ww , having him outside a top 10 is ludicrous and only says IDKSAB

 

Anyone know what is the largest purse these little guys can possibly earn?

 

So... 115 isn't a good division because no one watches them—and you don't watch them because they're not a good division (because no one watches them).

Got it.

 

Those who can't invest themselves in boxers due to that size-significance dilemma are missing out. Of course there is a basic, red-blooded aspect to boxing whereby we look up to those who could take out most street brawlers, but boxing is also an art, and if you are anything more than a casual you should wake up and smell the coffee.

Super-flyweight is currently in a golden age. The talent pool is super concentrated. Gonzalez, Cuadras, Estrada and Inoue make for a stellar quartet. A usual complaint of our smaller warriors is that they have little power. Well, the lowest KO percentage here is Estrada's at 67%. Inoue's punches don't only knock opponents silly but make loud noises. Another gripe may be a similarity in styles but again that does not apply here as all have distinct modes of fighting.

Light-heavyweight has the goods but dawdles. No Stevenson-Kovalev, possibly no Kovalev-Ward II. And Cruiserweight is nice but the talent is not there - not in a pound-for-pound sense compared to 115 lbs - not anyway you cut, slice or boil it.

Ironically it the lack of recognition that makes these boxers so game, hungry for their first million. I'm not sure I'd condone a full blown love affair.

 

The lower weights need more exposure for sure.

 

It defintly plays into it...not many men are below 5'5" and 120 pounds. Meanwhile not many men are above 6'5" and 220 pounds...but that in part is the attraction of heavyweights. Would you rather be 6'6" and 240 pounds or 5'4" and 115 pounds?

You watch heavyweight and you think "wow what a physical force" although most of them are lumps with bad boxing skills.

You watch these flyweights and you think "damn these skills!" but they only seem like a physical force to smaller men although they could level a normal size man with ease.

 

Great post. A brilliant quartet indeed, although I do hope Estrada still has it.

 

I made a thread for biggest purses by division a while back:
Heavyweight
Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield II 30,000,000
Cruiserweight
Hill vs Maske 1,500,000
Light Heavyweight
Ray Leonard vs Donny Lalonde 15,000,000
Super Middleweight
tie
Froch vs Groves II 13,000,000 ?
Leonard vs Hearns II
Middleweight
De La Hoya vs Hopkins 30,000,000
Junior Middleweight
De La Hoya vs Mayweather 52,000,000 (after television cut)
or
Mayweather vs Alvarez 41,500,000
Welterweight
Mayweather vs Maidana 32,000,000 *Obviously since then May v Pac was like 300 mil
Light Welterweight
Pacquiao vs Hatton 12,000,000
Lightweight
Pacquiao vs Diaz 3,000,000 ?
Super Featherweight
Pacquiao vs Morales III 3,000,000
Featherweight
Hamed vs Barrera 6,500,000
Super Bantamweight
Donaire vs Rigondeaux 1,300,000
Bantamweight
Donaire vs Narvaez 725,000
Flyweight
?
Junior Flyweight
Carbajal vs Gonzalez II 1,000,000

Flyweights don't make much. At best they can make a couple hundred thousand dollars. That's why I said we could probably get every top guy at 115 to fight in a tournament for around 8 million dollars. In a recent fight, Gonzalez got 400k and Cuadras made 250k. For Gonzalez vs Arroyo, Gonzalez earned 300k to Arroyo's 75k. Against Viloria Gonzalez earned 250k with Viloria earning 100k, and against Sosa he picked up 200k. We could seriously put on Inoue vs Gonzalez, with Estrada vs Cuadras plus Yafai vs Casimero on the undercard for about 1.5 million dollars.

 

Was 112 for a couple years, but since Roman and Estrada moved up and Inoue emerged and moved up... yeah.