Mayweather didnt fight very well vs Pacquiao, no one argues that. But regardless of who/what style you like, you cant give Pac more than 5 rounds. There's not 5 tight enough to score to him, whereas only Mayweather's blindest haters cant score 6 clear to Floyd. 116-112 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
I just saw that fight a few months ago again (I see it every couple years or so.) Hagler is by far my favorite fighter of the 80's and probably of all time, so I was really bias watching that match the first few times. I always looked at Leonard as a great talent, but he had his moments of picking out his opposition when it suited him the best (sans Benitez and the first Duran and Hearns' fights.) I couldn't give Hagler any of the first 4 as Leonard clearly outworked him early on, forcing marvelous to play catchup for the remainder of the fight (although I thought Marvin clearly won rounds 5-8.) The ebb and flow of that match was so unusual to watch unfold. I thought Ray nicked him by 2 points because of the solid work he put in during the championship rounds. If Hagler just started a bit stronger, he could've definitely eked out the decision. i will say this, he sure waited on Hagler a very long time before getting in the ring with him. He wouldn't have ever thought about fighting someone as monstrous as Marvelous until his brutal war against Mugabi in 1986.
I agree with all that, I got fed up with that way of scoring a few years ago. yeah, I don't think I will be revisiting that farce. I recall thinking Mayweather edged a crap non-action fight, hardly the clinic that was claimed.
What part of Loovul you stay? Im in Mercer Cty, just outside HBurg bwo of Chitown, but I work up in Loovul all the time.
I've scored it several times and always have Hagler 1 or 2 points ahead. Leonard definitely waited until Hagler was showing clear signs of decline, but on the other hand Leonard was coming up in weight and a lot of inactivity. So Hagler should have done much better than he did, whatever way we score it. A great night for Sugar Ray Leonard anyway.
You're right, both Floyd and Pac were/are trying to maximise their earnings IMHO. I guess the only difference is marketing. Floyd decided that being dislikable (i.e. Money Mayweather, showing off his wealth) was a good way to sell his fights, because people came hoping to see him get knocked out. Conversely, Pacquaio clearly wants to be considered a 'good' person.
Well, I recently moved. I'm back in my old neighborhood which kind of borders downtown Louisville, Germantown, and the Highlands. I'm within walking distance of where Bardstown Rd starts.
in the eyes of the judges ... what a sore loser ... stop with the excuses already ... pac was one of Floyd's easier wins