Prime HW James Toney vs Prime Razor Ruddock

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  1. Charles White

    Charles White Chucker Full Member

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    Toney from the Holyfield fight vs a prime Ruddock. Does Toney embarrass Razor with his speed and old school defense? Can Toney withstand the power of Ruddock? Would Ruddock be able to land his power punch Smash?
     
    Charles White, Jan 23, 2017
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  2. Vince Voltage

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    I think a prime Ruddock would have won.
     
    Vince Voltage, Jan 23, 2017
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  3. Wass1985

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    I see Toney winning on points and making Ruddock look very ordinary, the way he loaded up on the smash would do him no favours at all.
     
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    As above but toney survives a few rocky moments. Razor was mostly no easy touch..
     
    Fergy, Jan 23, 2017
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    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Toney's best weight was 160-168. He'd be giving away 70 pounds.

    The extra weight just made him slower and reduced his flexibility which he relied upon to avoid big shots in the pocket.

    Ruddock is just too big.
     
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  6. Wass1985

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    I smell sarcasm......
     
    Wass1985, Jan 24, 2017
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    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I won't confirm nor deny.
     
    lufcrazy, Jan 24, 2017
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  8. Shempz

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    Toney gets mullered in this one.
     
    Shempz, Jan 24, 2017
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    I dont care how good Toneys chin is/was, Ruddocks punch power was on a whole different level.

    (Expect a Ruddock vs Sam Peter thread soon).
     
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  10. Wass1985

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    That power punch was telegraphed from Mars..... if Jaco could take that power than I'm sure Toney could.
     
    Wass1985, Jan 24, 2017
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    Toney with a clinic on the guy.
     
    zadfrak, Jan 25, 2017
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  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Ruddock might actually get the stoppage here. Massive puncher with underrated skills in his prime. Ruddock KO is my prediction. I know Toney's never been stopped, but he never stepped in with Ruddock either!
     
    UnleashtheFURY, Jan 25, 2017
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    James is a great fighter but was not a true heavyweight. I favour Ruddock
     
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    Ruddock was a pretty good fighter when he still had his jab. But then in later fights he went smash crazy.
     
    Longhhorn71, Jan 26, 2017
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    Sam Peter managed to outsmart Toney in the rematch despite having the intelligence of a carrot. Ruddock could win by jabbing and not engaging.

    If Ruddock decides to fight Toney like Booker did, he would lose.
     
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