Frampton v LSC II

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  1. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    Ho
    Did u hear shane giving out bad advise? What specificaly is it that makes u say shane wasnt that good last night. Or is it an assumption because carl didnt fight the right fight that it was shanes wrong advise ad the rds went by?
    I only really heard him when he told carl hed just lost that rd.
    I only
     
  2. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    How do u know he trained for power and strength and not speed and sharpness....just asking.
     
  3. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Another top fight between the two of them, made for each other!

    I had LSC 2-3 rounds up... Frampton struggled with the jab and reach early doors.

    Hopefully see the trilogy in Belfast.
     
  4. Bent-nose

    Bent-nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agree 100%. It was refreshing to hear.
     
  5. Guy Nicho

    Guy Nicho Member Full Member

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    I'm sure you lauded him yesterday? I may be wrong though, now need more experience? I don't like him and think inherited some very good fighters who anyone would do well with BUT he shouldn't be overly criticised on one night. I heard him saying for Frampton to move feet and be fast he got of stool and planted feet for first 30 seconds of round. I just don't like the culture of hero to zero. I'd say LSC maybe was right how much he was affected by Dad the first camp. Carl/Shane did adjust at times the 3rd saw a style change from first 2, just got out thought and fought at very very top level maybe credit to LSC camp instead of pulling Framptons apart
     
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  6. Bent-nose

    Bent-nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Another good post len.
    Smoke and mirrors from Shane?

    After watching that I can see why Frampton gave up his European title instead of facing Galahad.
     
  7. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why are so many making excuses for Frampton ?

    Suggesting that he and/or his trainer simply had an off night. What did Carl do differently in the first fight, what did Shane do or say differently during the first fight ?

    How about he simply isn't good enough to beat Leo, and that he got Leo on a bad night during the first fight ? It was obvious that Leo's head and emotions were in turmoil during his camp for the first fight due to the situation with his fathers health.

    There was lots of talk about Frampton being a better technician, and that Leo was one dimensional, and only able to fight one way ( clearly the talk of folk who have never taken the time to watch through Leo's earlier fights ). Leo boxed behind the jab, kept the fight at range for majority of the time, and made Frampton pay when he tried to lunge forward by timing him with some stinging counters. When they were fighting in the pocket it was Leo's punches that finished virtually every exchange.

    There was lots of talk about Frampton being the bigger puncher which i find baffling considering there is no barometer by which to measure his pop at the higher weight, if anything Frampton was more troubled by Leo's power than vice versa.

    Complacency is a terrible trait in a fighter and his team. The circus and Frampton assumed Leo would just walk forward in straight lines, and that Frampton would simply use the same tactics he did in the first fight to win rounds. I also watched several videos in the build up where Frampton was suggesting he was going to stop Leo !!

    Leo fought the way he's capable of fighting last night, this wasn't a tired, stressed and distracted Leo, this was the real version of Leo.

    He out boxed the boxer, out punched the puncher, and outsmarted the thinker.
     
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  8. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I heard him tell Carl he'd lost around he actually won.
    I heard him telling Carl several things he was doing wrong, NOT what he needed to DO RIGHT.
    It's what I didn't hear that worried me a lot.

    Also caring over from the first fight, Shane kept referring to Carl's power and how he hurt LSC repeatedly in the first fight - that never happened.
    As a result Carl trained for strength and power, not the speed and sharpness he needed if he was to have any chance to beat LSC
     
  9. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Well from the way he fought, his physique etc
    All his talk in the build up was of power...koing sparring partners etc.
    Plus he gained 13 lbs (a full stone almost!) since the weigh in. That's not good in a guy Carl's size.
     
  10. Mod-Mania

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    That doesn't make sense since he DID beat him the first fight.
     
  11. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Who are the 'so many' that you claim are making excuses for Frampton at the start of your long-winded post?
    I dont see any....
     
  12. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Just goes to prove that Frampton had absolutely no chance of beating Rigo and this is why Frampton and the wee fella wanted nothing to do with him.
     
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  13. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He DID beat him in the first fight, but i'm suggesting that was more to do with Leo's state of mind, and lack of proper preparation.

    Frampton looked clueless at times last night, and his so called trainer did and said nothing to help.

    I'd be confident of Leo beating him in the trilogy, even if it took place in Framptons living room. Frampton tried to fight the same way and was beaten handily, neither him or his trainer managed to change tactics or adapt. He might even get gung ho in front of his home fans and end up sat on his arse.
     
  14. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    That makes no sense....
     
  15. BigDoofus

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    It makes perfect sense. Wee Finbar kept his golden goose well away from Rigo.
     
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