Ten clearly best heavyweights in a decade.

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  1. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1890-1900 saw a clear gap between the best heavyweights and the rest.
    Corbett, Fitz, Choynski, Goddard, Maher, Jeffries, Ruhlin, McCoy, Slavin and Jackson would be a clear top ten. Sullivan did nothing in the decade and I think only Denver Ed Smith has a shout to enter the top ten. My question is, does any other decade have such a clear top tier and does it suggest that the division was weak?
     
    mattdonnellon, Jan 27, 2017
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  2. McGrain

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    You're literally the only guy that when you post about heavyweights i don't feel myself going "Jesus, more heavyweights."
     
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  3. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thank you!
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    The sport was still young and there weren't too many other standout guys. And the fact that Jeffries was able to make a name for himself with so few fights implied that competition must have been slim.
     
    mr. magoo, Jan 27, 2017
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  5. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oops forgot Sharkey...out with Slavin. Mitchel and Kilrain did nothing in the 90's
     
    mattdonnellon, Jan 28, 2017
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  6. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What about the fifties, Marciano, Walcott, Charles, Moore, Valdez, Liston, Patterson, Folley, Machen, Ingo?
     
    mattdonnellon, Jan 29, 2017
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  7. lufcrazy

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    What about Choklab?
     
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  8. McGrain

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    :hambre:
     
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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Tbf I'm just as bad haha my next boxer to study though is Ketchel so that will end some of my obsession with HW fighters lol
     
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  10. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hard to find a clear top ten HW's in Ketchel's time...
     
    mattdonnellon, Jan 30, 2017
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  11. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had thought of the exact same decade and came up with 9 of your 10. The only difference was I had Bob Baker rather than Archie. Not that Archie was less deserving, I just forgot about him. It would be between Baker and Valdez of who stays and who goes, so let's just make it 11 for spits and giggles.
     
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  12. Webbiano

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    I thought it would be easy and then I started brain storming and I'm not sure what happened. Not to take digs, but Langford fighting Johnson might have cleared some of it up, but then you still have a guy like Ketchel as a very likely top 10 candidate, so yer it's difficult. Same problem in the 1910s. If Dempsey had met Wills and Langford we'd have a much clearer picture.
     
    Webbiano, Jan 31, 2017
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    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Johnson, Jeffries, Langford, Jeanette, Burns, Ketchel, O'Brien, Mcvea

    If you went from 1902 maybe? That was just a approximation of were to place them. So many options for 9 and 10 though
     
    Webbiano, Jan 31, 2017
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  14. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well you still have Willard, McCarthy, Wills, Hart, Ed Martin, Gunboat and "The White Hope" crowd. Then there's Miske, Fulton and so on...a lot more than ten anyway.
     
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  15. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's why I fiddled with the dates, Wills, Willard would be exempt as they were yet to have there comeuppance, otherwise Wills slots right in there, I really shouldn't have missed Hart out, that was a genuine error. So that's a solid 9, however you'd have to go into far greater detail to justify why that 10th fighter is being significantly above the crowd that closely miss out, maybe even for 7, 8 and 9 too
     
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