Does size count even just a little bit?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    This is who I'm debating with he holds a correlation between Spinks bulking to face Holmes and Klitschko being top dog for a decade.
     
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    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Is it worth considering that Spinks decided to add weighr BECAUSE every last LHW champ had failed. Could it be none have tried since because of how outmatched he was against Tyson?
     
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    Does anyone actually know when the ruling I mentioned earlier came into force?
     
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    They worked with big fighters of course, but they didn't seem to exclusively seek them out despite there being a decent pool to choose from.

    You would think that in an age of smaller average sizes, you could much more easily exploit the division training one of these bigger guys next to Louis.
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    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All those guys might have not had the heart to fight, there's a hell of a lot more to the game than physical dimensions.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    No matter the average size, being the bigger man will always be a natural advantage.
     
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    Yeah, and being the size of a modern SHW becomes a greater advantage the farther back in time you go, one would assume.
     
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    That's kind of my point.
    Also, these guys were Joe Louis' sparring partners. They had to have had some heart!
     
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    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well obviously they were lacking something. If they had been knocking Louis all over the ring and handled him with ease do you really think their trainers would pass on the opportunity to bring them into HW contention?
     
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    Yeah it would but not according to Choklab with his crazy ideas. Having a size advantage still counts in exactly the same was as it does in today's game.
     
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    Maybe with the right drugs they could have knocked Joe Louis all over the ring? There certainly were enough trainers back then to pass on technical skill.
     
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    They were much bigger then, why couldn't they knock him all over the ring at that time?
     
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    But that's my whole point!!! Your saying the average weight of big heavyweights hasn't increased since the 1990s when the HW division was littered with Americans. Why didn't that happen in the 1960s? That is presumably when the US population peaked at producing big people, it levelled off then not the 1990s! You have deliberately avoided this.

    Please tell me why it took 30 years longer for this levelling off in size to present itself in boxing?
     
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    Size will always be an advantage, it just takes someone skilled enough to overcome the difference.
     
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    This is one of the worst posts you have written.

    I didn't say it hasn't increased, I didn't say it's levelled off. I said it hasn't increased much.

    I'm not a population growth expert, I don't have a clue why it happened in the 90's rather than the 60's.

    I'd assume it has a lot to do with 24 hour weigh ins becoming prevalent do people could pretend to be a weight class lower, 12 round fights becoming prevalent so people could get away with being heavier. I'd also assume in 100 years time men will be be even bigger.