POLL: Was Kovalev vs. Ward a robbery?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by GGGunbeatable, Nov 19, 2016.


Was it a robbery?

  1. Yes, Kovalev should have won

    343 vote(s)
    74.7%

  2. No, I thought Ward won

    116 vote(s)
    25.3%
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  1. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes. much worse that the championship belt was taken. the most that ward could have gotten was a draw while the max that kovalev would have taken was a very close decision win and minimum is a draw.
     
    icarus1, Nov 26, 2016
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Absolutely. Ward knows he got a gift too. He was coming in with his noggin all night trying to carve up Sergey's face machete style and many of those body shots he was landing on the inside were low. Robert Byrd and the judges were both on someone's payroll they shouldn't have been. Word on the street is Robert Byrd drinks James Prince's sperm straight from the source. Don't tell anyone you heard me say that though.
     
    Serge, Nov 26, 2016
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  3. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    1,2(10/8),3, 5, 6or7, in which he almost ripped Dre's ear off, 10 and 12. 7 rds to 5 plus the KD.
     
    chitownfightfan, Nov 26, 2016
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  4. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    TBPH????????? I didnt think Ward would have survived the first half the fight and didnt think the judges would be called upon unless a cut was caused from billygoating.
     
    chitownfightfan, Nov 26, 2016
    chitownfightfan, Nov 26, 2016
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  5. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wrong decision but not some egregious robbery. Happens in boxing.
     
    Ducklerr, Nov 26, 2016
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  6. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see there are 286 voters who DKSAB, lol. I have no problem with anyone who thinks Kovalev won. it was a CLOSE fight. If you thought this was a robbery though, you should probably go watch tennis or golf or something. lol
     
    wylan911, Nov 26, 2016
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  7. vestmod

    vestmod New Member Full Member

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    vestmod, Nov 27, 2016
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  8. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Back from my ban bet.

    Just want to reiterate that Kovalev won that 7-5 plus the KD.

    If Ward ever takes the rematch, Sergey stops him.

    That is all.
     
    BCS8, Dec 18, 2016
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  9. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    After watching the fight again for the 5th time... I gotta say I STILL think Kovalev won :beer-toast1: :thumbsup: And the majority of polls on this subject seem to have the same outcome as this one :D I know, I know... the VAST MAJORITY DKSAB right?? Lol!

    NEVER FORGET who the true 175lb champ is. :biggrin: Sergey Kovalev
     
    Todd498, Jan 30, 2017
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  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I am not going to say if I think it was a robbery until I really sit down to rewatch the fight closely. But....

    The Challenger was backed up throughout the fight, threw less punches than the champ, landed less punches than the champ, and to top it off.... was knocked down in the process. And yet, he 'dethroned' the champion.

    To put it another way, Kova outhustled Ward in 11 of the 12 rounds, and out of those 11 rounds in which he was pushing the fight and throwing more punches.... he landed more punches in 6 of those rounds, that means that people would have to give a round in which the champion is coming forward, throwing more punches and actually landing more punches, and score that round for the challenger (again, scoring the round in which he was outthrown and outlanded in, to him).

    Again, on top of all that, throw a knockdown on top of it.... and its hard for me to not say this was a robbery.


    That being said

    - I have still only seen the fight once
    - Punchstats are not infallible
    - Punchstats are not the be all end all to scoring a round or fight




    However, I do owe it a reviewing.... probably will never get around to it lol, but I wont call it a flat out robbery until I really analyse it round by round and score it accordingly.
     
    kirk, Jan 30, 2017
    kirk, Jan 30, 2017
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  11. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Watch it again. Looking forward to your review and I betcha you'll have Sergey winning after reviewing it :thumbsup:
     
    Todd498, Jan 30, 2017
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  12. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    I had Kovalev ahead by 3 points. This fight showed precisely why Ward only fights in the states - the safety net of home judges and ref has made him psychologically dependent.
     
    Peril, Jan 30, 2017
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  13. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Harold Lederman had Kovalev winning the fight 116 - 111, I had Kovalev winning also, not even close. This is boxing, not wrestling. SOB is afraid to fight Kovalev again, even with the rematch clause..............Ward got his dirty arse beaten and Kovalev will knock the piece of fecal matter out in a rematch, flush SOB down the toilet and back into the sewer from which he came!
     
    Farmboxer, Jan 30, 2017
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  14. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    It ain't gonna change, robbery on fight night, still robbery now 3 months after, remains the same 30 years later when I tell my grandkids :deal:
     
    pincai, Jan 30, 2017
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  15. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :clapclap::clap::beer-toast1::deal:
     
    Todd498, Jan 30, 2017
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