Poll: Where do you stand on PEDs in boxing ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Unforgiven, Feb 3, 2017.


Which best describes your position on the PED issue in boxing ?

  1. I have Zero tolerance for drug cheats. I want life time bans. No second chances.

    32 vote(s)
    24.1%

  2. I support 1 or 2 year bans for first time offenders.

    50 vote(s)
    37.6%

  3. Stop this testing nonsense. I don't care what they are taking. Let them get on with it.

    51 vote(s)
    38.3%
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  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Because PCP doesn't work.
    I mean, it will get you high, but it won't enhance boxing performance.
     
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  2. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    I'm surprised people believe sports are at all clean of PEDs. I mean, I don't think people realize how much performance would decline if they were to "clean up the sport".

    I see a lot of fans these days want to see incredible speed and strength, and expect athletes to have relatively long careers.
    But if we cleaned up the sport there would be a noticeable drop-off in performance, for decades at least.
    And careers of the stars would be shortened, halved even

    I'm happy to go on enjoying drug-enhanced sport. Therefore the testing seems pointless, and unfair - since most people aren't geting caught.

    I have no problem with PEDs. I have no more problem with the athlete taking steroids any more than problem than someone taking viagra, or someone needing two strong cups of coffee before work every morning. Being an elite athlete isn't easy. I see no reason why they should live in the dark ages where drugs are denied them, and where they are subjected to invasive testing all the time.
     
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  3. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    PEDs are prevalent in all sports. I believe all the top athletes making any kind of money do get away with it and can pass VADA, USADA. Basically, they can afford the good stuff and have some assurance the quality of the PEDs they use. Testing agencies are ALWAYS years behind the drug designers who constantly create PEDs, masking agents to avoid detection. Testing agencies would get sued if they didn't go through the years of due diligence to prove the validity of their tests. They're always playing catchup.
     
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  4. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yet serena williams is on nothing? lmao. that dude is juiced more than sylvester stallone, barry bonds, rjj, etc.
     
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  5. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Ive often wondered this

    It gives you superman strength

    If a cop tazers a guy off his head on PCP the guy on PCP dont give a damn

    End result would most likely be a DQ loss for Mr PCP for trying to bite his opponents face off
     
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  6. BCS8

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    Wlad and Golovkin disagree with you ;)
     
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  7. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your profile pic is a picture of someone who is widely regarded as Ped user in a fight where he nearly killed his opponent. Surely you have to see the hypocrisy?
     
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  8. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What about Ostarine is that cool too??
     
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  9. Unforgiven

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    I've heard the "superhuman strength" thing is a myth. Possibly because some PCP'd guys have freaked out in a paranoid rage and done something super-aggressive.

    The guy off his head on PCP might not be able to realize he's getting tasered but I'd seriously doubt his abilities to put together any sort of combination or see a punch coming !
     
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  10. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Oh I know they be clean.
    I was talking 'bout the other guys.
     
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  11. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog submit to Buc-ee's Full Member

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    This is a good discussion. Who would have thought?
     
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  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Oatarine is a more established ped without the backstory of meldonium (i.e. Was meldonium added as a a Ped to destroy Russia's Olympic team?). It doesn't carry the risks of steroids and hgh though and likely doesn't enhance performance as much, so I'd call it second tier.
     
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  13. BCS8

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    My point is that it IS possible to be clean and dominant at boxing. IF you are willing to work your nuts off.

    I personally don't demand superhuman performance from the athletes I follow. The good ol college try is good enough.
     
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  14. IsaL

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    "I no take random drug test, it weakens me in fight (pight)"
    "I is terrified of needles"
    "I don't know what is a esteorids"
    -Manny Pacquiao

    "I will take any test they want me too, AS LONG AS PACQUIAO DOES TOO."
    -The Great Juan Manuel Marquez

    http://static.boxrec.com/thumb/0/0f/Marquez_Pacquiao_KO.jpg/370px-Marquez_Pacquiao_KO.jpg
     
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  15. Roger_Ramjet

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    Like Mayweather, I'm all in favour of them.
     
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