Poll: Where do you stand on PEDs in boxing ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Unforgiven, Feb 3, 2017.


Which best describes your position on the PED issue in boxing ?

  1. I have Zero tolerance for drug cheats. I want life time bans. No second chances.

    32 vote(s)
    24.1%
  2. I support 1 or 2 year bans for first time offenders.

    50 vote(s)
    37.6%
  3. Stop this testing nonsense. I don't care what they are taking. Let them get on with it.

    51 vote(s)
    38.3%
  1. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Because the thread starter does have a bit of a point. Half the guys out there are dancing around the detection agencies while juiced up to the eyeballs. So why not cut the dance and say "have at it"?

    I personally don't like the idea that a guy has to risk bodily harm to be successful, though. And imho it skews the playing field even further towards the guys with the financial muscle backing them.
     
  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Added to what and added by who?
     
  3. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    PCP seems to turn off the bodies pain receptors. A fantastic thing if you're in a boxing ring

    As for strength, i've heard conflicting reports. The best one seems to be that since the body doesnt feel pain to anywhere near the same level as normal, it can push way beyond what its normally capable of doing, and so could rip tendons and fibers in an attempt to say lift a car

    But for sure, you're not gonna see Lomachenko level skills from a guy high on PCP!

    Once science has learnt to combine the benefits of PCP with still maintaining control and intellectual faculty, then holy **** what a PED that will be
     
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  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you say everyone is allowed to take them, then everyone will have to take them to remain competitive.

    So you will have a sport where 100 percent of the boxers are on PEDs.

    And essentially forcing people who wouldn't normally take them to start taking them to remain relevent in the game doesn't sound good at all.
     
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  5. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Levelling the playing field my friend

    I only wish he had done it earlier
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Research it yourself.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Why would I research the delusions of a forum weirdo?
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It takes one to know one. 37k posts :(
     
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  9. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Dino's made a few good posts in that time to be fair. I've counted at least 9 so far ;)
     
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  10. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    A no testing policy is the only way you can truly level the playing field as much as possible. Of course the court of public opinion will express outrage.

    Non athletic slobs already on tons of recreational and prescription drugs become so wildly indignant over participants in a combat sport taking PED's is the height of hypocrisy.

    Other issue would be only the best connected/informed/compensated boxers would be able to use the more costly PED's like HGH and IGF-! which are used pptimally when pulsed through the day and night thus increasing their already high cost.
     
  11. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    So you might actually be able to refute a post with facts, articulated via a concise and logic retort as opposed to your usual bombast replete with emo hysterics.
     
  12. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Millions of examples, and yet, virtually no proof about any. Guys, I'm as skeptical as any, but this type of post, where you are 100% certain and damning of a fighter for cheating w/o any type of supporting facts, just isn't right. I mean, if this is the route you want to take, why only list those two? Virtually every single fighter who's ever boxed, up until say..... 2012, would be as suspect and guilty as cheaters as those two you mention.
     
  13. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    ban them for life

    fighters put their lives at risk

    no reason to put a fighters life at serious risk
     
  14. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    By the same principle, a lot of the other stuff athletes are forced to do don't sound good.
    Making weight, intense training, increasing training volume, drying out, injury pre-hab, injury re-hab, surgery.
    None of these boxers would "normally" do the things they do. They are forced to by the profession. It's extreme.
    Not to mention the actual combat itself.

    Maybe we should go back to some sort of pure amateurism where even a full-time training regimen would be considered cheating.
    Just have a few white collar guys turn up after work and box a few rounds for the sake of good old competition.
     
  15. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    I have already given examples in the past why freeing up testing and let them take whatever they want, wont level the playing field at all.

    It benefits the guys with conditional shortcomings greatly for instance. Also guys that are very athletically gifted but have shortcomings in the power department would benefit more as others.

    And then there's the money and resources difference of course.