Tony Galento v. Hasim Rahman

None of that matters in the phone booth, where Holyfield beat Rahman, Galento would to. In terms of dirty infighting, Galento and Holyfield were two of the best.

 

While I agree that applying dirty tactics could certainly turn the tide of a fight, I'm not so sure I'd favor someone on that presumption alone. As mentioned, Galento's ability to get away with thumbing Rahman in the eye, head butting, stepping on his feet, etc, would have a lot to do with who was calling the shots on a given evening . That and weather or not he'd last long enough for these things to be of any use to him. Hasim has no historical value as far as I'm concerned and for all practical purposes was a fringe guy who got some lucky breaks. But he wasn't exactly a chump either. He managed to beat some pretty damn good fighters ( regardless of circumstances ) and was mostly only beaten by top flight guys.

 

Prime Galanto was a mean, tough dude with crushing left hook power. Anyone he could hit he could ko.

 

Both opposing arguments make compelling points imo. Would anyone be astonished if either won by ko?

 

I don't know..what is Rahman without the Lewis win?

What's his next best win?

He beat Sanders, who is dangerous but ran hot/cold. Meehan, Sulivan and Barrett are solid fringe guys, but Meehan was the only one he was really impressive against, the Sulivan and Barrett fights were shockingly competitive. Though not official, I think he deserved the nod over Tua in the rematch. Fought Toney to a draw in a fairly even fight.

But you have two loses to Oleg, a loss to Ruiz, a loss to a 40 year old Holyfield at a time most were far more competitive with him or outright beating him. He gave Tua his only win over a genuine rated contender, though under bizarre circumstances you can't stop fighting just because you hear the bell if the other guy is in your face and throwing frustrated swings.

In his final comeback attempt, he once again fail prey to a craftier fighters dirty tricks in Toney 2, and got dominated by Wlad as a replacement opponent.

Where do you place this guy? I can't agree his losses were mostly top flight, nor he is guaranteed victory over lesser regarded fighters.

 

That's why I prefaced my comment with "in shape and good to go". Rahman also blew hot and cold. But at his best, he was pretty darn good.

 

I don't know man. He was at his career fattest when he outboxed Tua in really his best performance, bell to bell. Damn shame he got robbed there.

And he was fit as a fiddle in top shape for the Holyfield and Oleg 2 bouts. He was soundly beat in both and didn't see the final bell.

 

Skill still matters in getting inside that phone booth. Galento telegraphed from another continent and did little to hide himself when closing the gap. Holyfield was a very skilled boxer who could get into a gunfight while maintaining his skills. Holyfield was also exceedingly strong. Rahman was ridiculously strong himself and had good, underrated boxing skills. I'm not saying Galento couldn't KO Rahman with the right punch, but I'm going to say his chances are in the 20% range.

 

Most of the men he lost to were quality quality fighters. Unless you want to include the guy he was beaten by in the last fight of his career when he was ancient. And Lewis, sanders, Meehan, Barrett and Sullivan were better scalps than Glanetos list.

 

Outside of Lewis.

Galento took out Lou Nova, Al Ettore, Harry Thomas, Leroy Haynes, and Nathan Mann. I rate that over Rahman's list.

 

What is Galento without the Nova win and flooring Louis? Do you think Nova beats Sanders?
He took out Nova?You know that isn't strictly true, he thumbed him all night and f*cked up his eyes.


This isn't me being petty ,I'm basically just thinking out loud.I'm undecided on this fight really.

 

Hi Mongoose

 

The bulk of galento's record is built on trial horses and journeyman who he fought mostly in his backyard. He was no glutant for training and discipline but was glutinous when it came to plenty of other things. He would smoke cigars, drink booze and eat garbage while in training for fights. I don't see where Tony gets his following from. I think his career had been micromanaged to look better so that Louis getting decked by him could be justified. Bert cooper was as good or better of a fighter.

 

"The next day, upon the recommendation of commissioner Jules E. Aronson, Thomas was banned for life from Pennsylvania rings by the state boxing commission".

"Haynes took three nine counts before the bout was stopped after he dropped to the floor again without being hit." (Associated Press)

 

This makes absolutely no sense.

I guess you are another nutter, I'll stay clear of.