Poll: Where do you stand on PEDs in boxing ?

3G is already enrolled in VADA's program. While Jacobs isn't in the program, they will still get tested per the NYSAC rules and regs, at the minumum.

 

As much as we might all like lifetime bans for first offenses, the truth is governing bodies would be vulnerable to legal action by banned athletes if they had their chosen source of income taken from them for life. This is not a case of what is morally right, it's a case of what is sustainable in law.

I'm afraid this is a legal maze into which sports authorities are not prepared to enter. Lifetime bans for repeat offenders are an easier target, but even then the strict liability applied by governing bodies could still be challenged in the courts.

Life time bans will never be seen, but four-year ones, like those applied in athletics could be made to work...

 

Boxing won't have a bigger problem if they allow them.

Can you imagine if there was no testing at all and fighters could take anything they wanted?

What would Joshua and Wilder look like if they could take anything they wanted at any time they wanted it? Hell, Wilder is a bean pole now and he can't get guys to fight him without trying to get away with taking banned drugs.

What if you had some out of his head Joshua and Wilder opposite you in a corner, balling and crying like Oliver McCall one minute and raging the next ... swollen to the gills with whatever PEDs or Roids or hormones they wanted to fill their bodies with ...

And, since there's no problem taking them, if you survive a round against them, they just get shot up, down more pills and drink whatever concoctions they want between rounds.

What a nightmare.

Guys freaking ODing, having heart attacks and strokes during the middle of fights because their un-schooled trainers aren't pharmacists and they've taken too much of whatever the hell they want to in order to Go To War and Win.

Nothing about allowing PEDs "improves" the situation we have now. Guys take "what they can get away with" now and Boxing has to do better at catching and punishing them.

Allowing an "anything goes" plan would revert boxing back to fights in fields behind barns and on barges.

 

John Garfield did not care if they were used. What does that tell you?

 

Make it all legal.

 

It's not a simple situation. On the one hand, nobody likes cheating. On the other hand, the only way to fix it (as far as I can see) is if the sport had one governing body that was well enough paid to make straight bribery difficult. Even then, wouldn't the big money guys be paying chemists to keep them ahead of the regulatory curve? There is no easy answer. It appears that the current setup keeps it from getting too far out of hand, but could definitely be improved.

 

You can kill someone using them. You can damage a fighter permanently and end careers.

 

It is the double standards that is pissing me off in all this. It's against sportmanship to say this but at this point, I'd allow it to make sure all boxers plays on an even ground.

But, it would kill the sport and probably someone down the road...not really smart.

 

1st time 6 months, second time 1 year, however, VADA and the WBC should be investigated, they both appear to be protecting Wilder. Wilder is running from Povetkin, Ortiz and anyone else who can fight. Wilder is a fraud..........Wilder was actually crying to the WBC to please not make him fight Povetkin, looks the same for Ortiz...........

 

there is no proof of her juicing.

cheatpova however is a cheat, from the drugs she stuffs herself with, to the banshee like screams(not an exertion, an actual scream) she emits to distract her opponent from returning.

 

At the moment the situation as I see it is that there are a handful of untouchables, fighters too rich, profitable and connected to ever be busted, at least via conventional channels. Then there are lower tier guys who can afford the best stuff but might not have the connections to ensure clean test results every time out. Then there's the rest, who have to try to get away with whatever they can and hope for the best.

Then there are the testing orgs themselves, who are either behind the times, incompetent or corruptible, or else not used at all until their services are next to useless (say three weeks before a fight).

Finally you have the governing bodies themselves, who are in many ways the worst culprits of all in that they frequently fail to oversee testing programmes correctly (either through incompetence or complicity), cover up results for the more high profile fighters, fail to overturn results where one fighter has been busted, and hand out the most ludicrous, pathetic punishments for fighters who are eventually found guilty.

It's pretty much a fcukup from top to bottom.

Fans don't exactly help matters, since fighters who perform with the covert help of PEDs are praised and rewarded with viewing numbers while fighters who fight clean (if there are any) are likely toiling somewhere in obscurity or putting on lesser performances and getting thrown on the bum-heap as a result.

In my own view I think mandatory universal testing programmes like VADA are the way to go. But like so much else it requires the goodwill and cooperation of a number of different elements within the boxing community, and as such it's probably going to fall flat on its face. Failing that, good investigative journalism and genuine fan outrage will do a lot to stop such abuses from being committed.

 

They are nearly all on PED's some boxers can hide it with more success some with less.

 

She was juicing, she has been getting medically approved for PED's aka steroidal cocktails for years. This brings up the question is it fair for a natural male competing in a female sport to take PED's?

http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.com/?m=1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...ada-hacking-abuse-debate-theraputic-use-drugs

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dail...s-gymnast-Simone-Biles-banned-substances.html

 

thats a claim, not a fact of evidence.

example so you can understand -

Mirkofilipovic CLAIMS hes got evidence the Williams cheat, but shows no evidence.
I know its a FACT that you are lying again.

Also, its a FACT Cheatapova is a drug using cheat who screams as loud as possible to distract her opponent from hearing where her shot is going.

see difference? ok

 

The facts are there, the WADA acknowledged that Serena was approved for PED usage. The hacks prove it as well, this was all over the news, poor Herol self destructs as always.