This was posted on instagram a implication of cheating of the most serious level

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What you've heard of this before?
    Thinking back I remember something last year with green grants gloves I think and I'm sure the recipient complained then also?
     
  2. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    For the record, you can see around the 54 minute mark that the gloves of both fighters have that level of damage.
     
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  3. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, they both pulled the same trick.
     
  4. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    It's hard for me to buy this.

    1. Some of his primary evidence is the damage on the gloves. You can clearly see at ~54 minutes, they both have this damage.
    2. Vinegar/acetic acid has a very strong and distinct smell. It's hard to miss. Why did the fighter not mention this? He apparently said his eyes were burning. I would think he would be able to smell the vinegar too.
    3. How did coach know it was acetic acid? Only way would've been by smell. And yet still no mention of the smell.
     
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  5. Angler Andrew

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    I rember something last year about the paint coming off Grants gloves,something tells me it was Germany?
     
  6. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Garry Hyde comments more on instagram
    " Whats the point in cheating. If you can't win fair and square. This was a brutal fight where
    my guy was 5 points up on one judges scorecard and 4 up on another's. The fight was stopped
    in round 10 when my guy couldn't defend himself because he couldn't ****in see. My guy was
    on his feet but helpless. Later in hospital his eyes were burning. This would make your blood
    boil. "
     
  7. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Ali-Liston. If Sonny did it back then who knows how long this trick has been in the books.
     
  8. mirkofilipovic

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    Your lifes greatest achievement is having the patience to wait in line for your section 8 application and getting approved afterwards :risas3:
     
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  9. Boxing Prospect

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    The one in Germany - Chudinov Vs Sturm II?
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    1. Both teams pulled the same trick, hence both had the same damaged gloves.
    2. He smelled the vinegar alright, but he can hardly mention it at the time since he had the same stuff on his own gloves.
    3. The coach knew it was acetic acid because he was pulling the same thing. It's easy to spot a cheater when they are cheating the same way you are.

    This looks to me like a case of the losing team screaming foul after the event, after they had time to clean up evidence of their own unsuccessful attempts to win by cheating.
     
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  11. Angler Andrew

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    Good call I thought it was that
     
  12. Angler Andrew

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    Wow you just can't make this **** up can you?
     
  13. juppity

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    This question should clear up alot of unanswered questions about Garry Hyde.
    Question asked on Instagram about this matter.
    '' I am a little confused hear. How have you ended up with these gloves ? And why weren't
    they tested asap after the fight ? Are these gloves your fighters ? All the same its a big call
    to call a boxer a cheat without having any real evidence to back it up. ''
    Gary Hyde answer
    The gloves were worn by my fighter Danny. Both gloves were contaminated with Acetate. I'm
    100 % sure we didn't apply it to our gloves. I learned last week of a certain group of camps
    which use this chemical on the gloves. So i retrieved the gloves we used as i knew the dye was
    off them. I sent the photos to Grant and i was assured that the only way the gloves could look like
    this if Acetate was used on them. There is one other case of Grant Gloves looking like this after a
    fight and this case was well documented . "
    Boxing Prospect well done yes the fight was Chudinov vs Sturm 2.
    http://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/02/chudinov-sturm-glove-controversy/
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    It seems incredible but usually when guys start pointing their finger with specific or detailed accusations on how their opponent cheated them, you really have to strongly suspect they have been doing the same thing.

    Some of the biggest cheaters are the ones pointing the fingers, almost every time. It's a giveaway sign and they just can't help themselves. Of course, they only do it when they lose the contest or when they fear they might lose the contest.
     
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  15. covetousjuice

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    Ah.

    It makes so much sense.