Funny how all the Wilder detractors were crying about how he was going to fight another drug cheat.

He went there before he was busted though

Be a different situation with Ortz though as the Ped bust came after he traveled to Russia would he have fought him if he already knew of the doping prior ?

I like his stance on it I have zero tolerance on PED cheats personally I think life ban for them is only way to go.

I am not a hater of Wilder but even his most die hard fans must admit his run of fights has been awful, not sure how the GGG comparison fits given that those where Mandos and Wilder has been on the longest run of voluntaries I have ever seen he picked these tomato cans.

I agree though GGG resume is pretty thin he needs to step up in weight and stop hanging around for Canelo

Wilder needs to step up as he is winning no fans fighting in Alabama against fighters that are not top 10 fighters !

 

You've really embarrassed yourself here Ellerbe. Even if they didn't know about Wach's previous infringements- unlikely IMHO - then they still deserve stick for being stupid enough to go around mouthing off about how drugs cheats like Ortiz aren't going to ever get a shot at his belt because of their dodgy past only to then suggest a weaker fighter with a chequered history on that front is being considered.

At best they're unprofessional and look like fools, at worse they look afraid of anyone seen as a legitimately world class operator by the boxing community.

 

Fair point .... its a keep busy fight but still ANOTHER voluntary WBC need to order his new mando quick and have him fight a live body he has had plenty of opportunity over the last 2 years and Povetkin aside failed to step up

 

Ortiz has been busted for Peds prior to Wilder travelling to Russia to my knowledge Povetkin had not been busted.

Again not sure why you are making a comparison to GGG thise where mandos not Voluntaries ?

I agree GGG resume is weak but thats not who we are discussing

 

Jesus wept.

The other thing you're missing is that Wazisname should never have been in line to have a crack at Wilder's title anyway which would have then given him plenty of time to face a top tier opponent. You guys act like he only had a few weeks to find someone, which he did when he signed Washington but let's not act like he couldn't of got someone better in to start with.

 

Well I'm not sure who you're directing that at but I can assure you if any other heavyweight said no to Ortiz for his past as a drugs cheat - a legit stance in many ways- only to then put forward another weaker, former drugs cheat as an opponent I'd give them plenty of heat for it as it's clearly not about drugs at that point it's about ducking a certain opponent.

 

Not all Brook obviously not but a large number were ... has Wilder fought any mando since he got the belt ?

 

That's the other Wilder special isn't it, schedule fights at inopportune times to make sure his schedule doesn't match up with anyone else's and he can then use that as another excuse as to why fights X, Y and Z weren't made.

 

You either dont fight PED cheats or you do .... I would respect him more for saying no Ortiz no belt is worth more than your morals .... is it ?