Could tillis have done a buster Douglas?

He was very hungry in Tokyo, didn't he weigh 500lb a day before the fight...

 

He didn't really have an off night though. He beat Tillis who was better than anyone else he had fought and used good movement.
Many of Tyson's first 19 didn't last long enough for us to say Tyson was having an "on" or an "off" night. They were pitiful walkovers.

 

I think Kevin Rooney considered the Tillis fight one of Tyson's very best performances.

 

I think Tyson was perhaps a little less than 100% for Tillis though. He didn't have the experience and it appears true that he had been ill several weeks earlier which caused a delay in the fight. No suggestion that he was still at all ill for the fight but it probably disrupted his schedule somewhat.

At least I consider lack of world class experience and a delay from illness to be a better "excuse" than Japanese p-ssy zapping his strength or whatever.

 

Tyson looked electric at times but Tillis showed his class and looked very decent himself.

 

Tyson fans just like Marciano fans will make every excuse in the book. Since some Mike Tyson fans actually believe Tyson was at his best in 1985 there should be no excuses. Tyson struggled with Tillis and none of his punches really bothered James. James did go down but it was more from being off balanced than being hurt. The reason Douglas was so successful was because he didn't fear that hype around Tyson. He threw punches with intent behind them. He would punch after the break and when the rounded ended and Tyson stood there mugging he stared back.

Tillis and later on Tony Tucker both could of beat Tyson if they threw their punches with that intent and did more than throw a 1-2 and then held on. Douglas let his hands Go.

That being said you could still say Tillis won their fight. It was close on the card. I think if Tillis didn't go down they would of had it a draw.

 

Tyson wasn,t in his prime in 1985 ! 19 years old !!!

 

Is something wrong with you? I said some of Mike Tyson's stupid fans will say he was in his prime in 1985 and nobody could beat him when he was with Cus.

 

I wasn't knocking Tyson. I was defending his performance against another poster who said that tillis exposed his vulnerabilities. To anyone with common sense, a fighter who's still a Teeenager and fighting pro for all but 14 months is going to run into a tough bump in the road.

 

You're right. It was a meaningless comparison. Muhammad Ali was 22 years old, a former Olympic gold medalist and one fight away from capturing lineage against an ATG when cooper knocked him to the canvas

 

So you don't believe Tyson was more developed at 19 than Ali was at 22, alrighty then.....

 

No I don't necessarily. But you're missing my point. Most great fighters had shaky moments against lesser opponents in their early boxing lives. Lennox Lewis was a former two time Olympian and world titlist with 25 bouts when he got knocked out by McCall. Muhammad Ali was an Olympic gold medalist and two fights away from beating a lineal champion when he got decked by cooper and fought on close terms with jones . Jack Dempsey was 23 and with 30 pro fights when he got stopped in one round by Fireman Flynn. Wladimir Klitschko was 23-0 and a former Olympian when he got beat by purity. All these guys were ATG's and yet they either struggled or got beat by lesser men early on. Why should Tyson be held to different standard especially given that he was younger and had less fights than any of them, and actually WON?

 

The fight of his LIFE ? No version of Tillis would defeat Tyson,not even botha /Tyson... Tyson in 1990 would have got to him faster and finish him off in 1990,while still not as sharp as 1986 he would have started faster and got the knock down and finished him.

On the actual real fight....

Tillis won like 2 rounds and was not remotley close to winning the 10 rounder where knock downs were not counted as the regular 8/10 system because the rounds were scored only with one point rules. So in REALITY Tillis would not win with regular scoring nor had the heavy hands or jab of Douglas to set any of the things Buster did. Even with the crappy judges ,no INCOMPETANT judging system or judges could have gave Tillis that fight. DELUSIONAL FANS MAYBE BUT THEY COUNT AS MUCH AS THE NEXT ABSURD OPINIONS..lmao

 

Tyson was fine physically for tillis regardless of what his book said. He was too docile, somewhat like in the holyfield rematch. He was basically boxing him

 

Tillis had skills but nowhere near 90 Douglas.