Spence: Brook is getting too much credit

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No I was just having a bit of fun lol
     
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  2. critix

    critix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    agree. fighting your mandatory is no achievement.
     
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  3. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    i hear you...at the same time when you listen to hearn this fight will set brook apart and make him the top 147 guy in the world...hearn said he believes a win sets brook apart as the top guy in the division....which i dont really believe....it almost sounds ridiculous.....which is why i have a hard time believing stuff that has come out of his mouth in the past
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah he fought cautiously because he was coming off of an injury and maybe had some doubts going in, it wasn't because of Bundu's power.

    Senchenko, Dan, Bizier, Gavin are all Bundu, Algieri level. So no he hasn't fought the highest caliber of opponents, but unlike Spence he has fought Porter and GGG, Porter he dominated far easier than Thurman, and he performed well against GGG, had Brook been a natural Middleweight he could have been a real problem for him.

    Just based on the eye test Brook is clearly the more skilled of the two, Spence doesn't do anything all that well, all he has going for him is his southpaw stance and power, his volume dropped off against Bundu because he was afraid of getting countered, so his volume will drop off immensely against Brook, and as I said in another post, Broom has a pretty track record against even more awkward southpaws than Spence, and is skilled enough at parrying and slipping shots that he'll be able to negate most of Spence's attributes.

    And yeah I think Book will stop him.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Don't disagree necessarily, but if he does beat Spence, he and Thurman will be the best in the division outside of Pacquiao, and I have a hard time believing anything that comes out of the mouth of Eddie Hearn regardless.
     
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  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Algeri and Bundu is clearly a level above all of those guys, Brook did well against Porter but he did a crazy amount of holding.

    Spence is a great inside fighter and body puncher whereas Brook has no inside game at all except holding. Brook has an excellent jab and a very accurate right hand, so he's advantage lies on the outside.

    I think it's 60-40 Spence I'm picking Spence by stoppage, when it comes around I'll challenge you with a wager bet in Kirks league.
     
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  7. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But can spencw get on the inside against brook? He doesnt rush in like porter si theres no need for brook to tie him up, spence gets on the inside by throwing hitting the head then body and shifts forward quickly, all brook has to do to negate that is when spence throws to the body throw a straight right hand. Spence will soon stop going to the body
     
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  8. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Having seen brook live a few times spence better be a fast starter because brook is unbelievable at finding his distance very very quickly. If spence is slow at this he may find himself a few rounds down then getting a little desperate
     
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  9. Farmboxer

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    Brook is not getting enough credit...................
     
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  10. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Definitely one of Spence's keys to victory, if he can get inside and work the body he has a good chance of winning. If Brook does as you say and can keep him from the inside, he has a good chance of winning.
     
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  11. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Wonder what his credit rating is. Gotta be around 750.
     
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  12. Kahuna

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    A level above? Wtf are you talking about lol.

    A non-ancient Bundu got a dubious win against a inexperienced Gavin. That tells you all you need to know. Spence is hyped to unbelievable levels for being slightly better/worse than a guy Brook was hammered for facing.

    Honestly, Spence will be exposed. It won't even be close imho.

    Algieri lost Khan ffs. He's clearly not very good.
     
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  13. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have you even heard of Bizier and Dan before Brook fought them, he literally pulled them out of the homeless shelter. At least Bundu has names like Thurman and Gavin on his resume.

    That's cool time will tell which one of us is right, I think it's a close fight which I make Spence favourite but you think it's a blow out for Brook.

    So you got Brook by stoppage?
     
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  14. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one is saying Algeri is very good or Bundu or Dann or Bizier.

    But Algeri is more proven than any of those guys, plus he nearly beat Khan the same guy Brook has been clamouring to fight for the last 4-5 years and the same guy who Brook tried to fight instead of Spence so wtf are you talking about.
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I had, and seen them both several times, Bizier just got done pulling off a decent upset against Frederic Lawson who was being touted as a potential player at WW, Bizier broke his jaw, and he'd had to back and forth highly competitive matches against Dan that could have gone either way, he was a decent arguably undefeated fighter who never been truly outclassed and demolished, he was against Brook.

    Dan's two losses prior that was against Aydin, and the first match was a robbery, he just went 6 rounds with a massive LMW in Jarrett Hurd, who literally pounded on him for the entire duration of the match until his corner pulled him out, Brook made easy work of him.

    As far as Bundu goes he beat Gavin barely, and lost wide to Thurman that match wasn't even remotely competitive. Sure Algieri performed very well against Khan, but the reality is Maidana should have got the nod over Khan or at the very least a draw and Peterson deserved that win, Khan just isn't that great.
     
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