Beterbiev vs Cockell

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  1. Cockell

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  2. Beterbiev

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    More durable then Kockel??

    He fought 11 zombies so far. His durability hasn't been remotely tested.
     
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  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I don't think many would fancy Beterbiev chances against Ruiz Jnr right now. He's not proven within his own class.
     
  3. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Why do you keep calling him "fat" Cockell was certainly not fat at Light Heavy where this fight would take place.

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    Ignoring a well thought out post and responding with hyperbole isn't doing your argument any favors, you are the one that looks outmatched here.
     
  4. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cockell eventually had great problems making the Light Heavyweight limit he had a glandular disorder which made him pile the weight on, there was nothing he could do about.
    Also earlier in his career he had to overcome rheumatic fever, it was thought he may never box again.
    All in all Don Cockell was a very resilient fighter and man who had to overcome a lot to get where he was.
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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  6. janitor

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    C0ckell might not have been the most elegant fighter, but he was actually a pretty good contender.

    He beat some legitimately world class opponents, and he deserved to fight for the heavyweight title.

    Beterbiev is look in very promising, but at time of writing, that is all that he is.

    Promising.

    Based on what we know at the moment, which is not very much, we would have to make C0ckell the favourite.
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    11 fights , most against nobodies .4 with losing records.
     
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  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Being the Ring #2 ranked heavyweight contender is not a small accomplishment in any era.
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    You know nothing. AB showed a great chin in the amateurs taking flush shots ( from Kovalev ) without covering up or clinching and he also did it with amateur heavyweights. And he did not change aggression when hit.

    That Dino is a good chin

    AB Has a field day with Co@ckrell.
     
  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Have you seen his amateur career? Have you seen his knockouts as a pro?
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I've seen his pro ko's over ham & eggers .I'm not interested in his amateur career.
    11 fights over poor to so-so opposition does not entitle him to be picked over a proven pro who beat some world class fighters.
    Lloyd Marshall
    Harry Mathews
    Roland Lastarza etc

    Beterbiev is already 32 so the chances of him improving are slim.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    amateur this , amateur that. 3 rounds fights with pillows and head gear centred more towards point scoring than aggression.

    Amateur boxing has NOTHING got to do with the professional ranks. Can your mental capacitor not compute this very simple knowledge??

    Are we talking about a 3 round amateur fight here? No , so all Aurtur has going for him his 11 fight against washed up scrubs who weren't good enough to hit him back.

    Does his 3 round fight with Kovalev where he took 'flush shots' automatically mean he can go 12 with him now and there is no chance that he could get stopped? getouttahere clown

    Korobov was another one of these invincible amateurs with 100's of wins , never been dropped , stopped etc ... Then gets polaxed by Andy Lee.
    The Krusher was wary of Ward whose punches couldn't knock the cream off a cup cake.



    Roland Lastarza is better than all Beterbievs cans put together. The cans he fought weren't even prime to make matters worse.. They were shot PAST PRIME cans.

    Kockell wins. Come back when Beterbiev beats somebody or even goes up and gives a good account of himself at HW.

    Oh and he turned down a fight with Kovalev last year so that tells you how much stock he puts into that amateur win.

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  13. Fergy

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    Think beterbiev will stop don some time late rounds. But don wasn't quite all bad. He had his problem s weight wise but he wasn't the worst heavy to have challenged for title. A lot of guys in with rocky throwing u name it at em , would have not lasted in to the ninth . certainly not one of the greatest brits but far from the worse
     
  14. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Then your opinion is void

    His entire skill base is displayed in his am career

    Guess you cant display skill with headgear on

    Hes also got one of the highest KO from any am boxer. Ever. But guess that dont matter either

    You look at his 11 fight pro record, disregard the way he destroyed them. How many ham n eggers did Rocky beat on his way to 49-0? Artur walked in there with less than 10 fights and obliterated former belt holders

    He also beat Kovalev and Usyk. B b b b but thet was in the emateurs so it dont count

    He would annihilate Cockell

    And he would Crush Marciano
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    At the risk of stating the obvious:

    Many fighters have had outstanding amateur careers, and have then gone on to be shark bait in the professional game.

    In the case of this gentleman, you would do well to withhold your judgment, until the picture is clearer!