Leonard's disgusting late eighties era

agreed.

 

A "career" lightweight?

Roberto Duran fought over a 33-year period. He was a lightweight for SEVEN of those years. (Less than a quarter of his career.)

Duran fought 119 times. I believe only 20 fights took place in the lightweight division (about 20 percent of his fights).

Duran fought at Junior Middleweight, Middleweight or Super Middleweight from 1981 to 2001 - or 20 years (essentially TWO=THIRDS of his career).

For God's sake, Duran fought at freaking middleweight longer than HAGLER did (whose career at middleweight ran 15 years - five short of Duran's run in those divisions).

Duran engaged in more fights at junior middleweight, middleweight and super middleweight (46 fights) than Sugar Ray Leonard fought in his whole career.

Duran engaged in more fights at junior middleweight, middlerweight and super middleweight (46 fights) than Duran did at Lightweight (20).

Duran had FOUR TIMES as many fights at junior middleweight, middleweight or super middleweight than Sugar Ray Leonard in those divisions. (Leonard only fought there 13 times, Duran 46 times.)

Who was the super middleweight? Duran or Leonard?

Duran wasn't a "career" anything.

Duran was a "career" lightweight like Thomas Hearns was a career "welterweight."

And head-to-head, Duran was the worst of the four. Leonard was the best. He beat all of them. Hagler second.

 

He started his career at Bantam weight

 

And Guillermo Jones started his career as a welterweight.

But most know him as a cruiserweight champ.

 

I noticed you changed your lightweight number from 52 to 31

 

Duran didn't fight at middleweight until he was 32 years old and 81 fights into his career. I don't think that makes him a "natural" middle... anymore than Roy Jones was a natural heavy.

 

Roy Jones didn't spend half his career fighting in the heavyweight division.

 

Duran fought at junior middleweight beginning in 1981 when he was 30 years old and he never fought at a weight lower than that for the next 20 years.

He fought 119 times, and only 20 of them took place in the lightweight division.

He was "no career lightweight."

 

Duran spent his prime years fighting at lightweight. That simply can not be argued to the contrary.

 

Junior middle is not middle.

 

Agreed.. Duran got bigger through the natural progression of weight gain with old age and not because his frame and musculature was necessarily structured that way in the prime of life.

 

He fought 20 bouts at lightweight out of 119 fights.

And one could argue the two best wins of his career came against Carlos Palomino and Sugar Ray Leonard. Neither fight took place at lightweight.

And Duran was in his 20s and in his prime for both fights.

 

And that's true but most guys don't fight 119 times and until they're age 50. If we're talking "prime" weight then Duran's was well below 160.

 

You're flailing.