Beterbiev vs Cockell

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Beouche, Feb 14, 2017.


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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    False. Stick to trolling the general Douche.
     
  2. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    To which gentleman do you refer? Artur or McVey?

    Yes they have. But Artur's went on to Obliterate former belt holders in his less than 10 pro fights

    Certain guys - Golovkin Beterbiev and Lomachenko - are different class. These guys learned their trade in the am game, entered the pros, and showed a great chin and great punch power, to back up their ridiculous am credentials

    Loma having won his first pro belt in his third pro fight, Beterbiev destroying 2 former belt holders with complete ease, and one fight away from a fight with Ward - who i guarantee you will retire before ever entering the ring with this 11 pro fight novice
     
  3. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    It happened. Once if not twice

    Lets hear from the man himself

    Q: Oleksandr, you won most everything as an amateur, including the gold at the 2012 Olympics. Who would you say gave you your hardest fight as an amateur?

    Oleksandr Usyk: “Well, all those fights, they all took place within the last couple of years or so, so it’s hard to say. Maybe, if I was pushed to say, it was Artur Beterbiev of Russia who gave me my roughest fight. He is very aggressive and he does hit very hard.

    Artur gives an incredibly skilled far bigger HW than Marciano his toughest fight.... yet he can't stand up to Don Cockell
     
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  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    It didn't happen. He lost. He also lost big to Hunter but was somehow award the decision.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Audley Harrison is a case in point!
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Just what we need, another troll!
     
  7. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Audley Harrison.... who went on to prove he was a glass jawed coward

    Now what has Artur went on and proven following his ridiculous am pedigree?

    11 KOs in 11 fights, obliterating former belt holders with consummate ease

    Regarded by many as the hardest punching am of all time

    Yet these mean nothing to you as he's just an 11 fight pro

    Maybe its time you opened your eyes up to the am game. Certain am Russians/Eastern Euros have risen to the top of the cream in no time at all, others have done so while being avoided like the plague

    Thanks God the likes of Beterbiev, Kovalev and Usyk didnt have to fight a behemouth like Don Cockell along the way
     
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  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    As McVea says, Audley Harrison’s amateur record looked incredible.

    Success as an amateur means nothing in the professional game!

    It has to be proven in the professional arena!
     
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  9. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Audley has a glass jaw

    And very limited skills

    So the same apply for GGG, Loma, Artur or Sergei?

    You can no longer just say "am record = meh"

    Esp in Loma's case - 396-1 - what the hell sort of a record is that?!?

    If Loma entered with a jaw like Audley or Amir then fair enough, but he didnt

    GGG - 345-5 - if he entered with an a glass jaw... no he entered with anything but

    Artur - obliterating everyone brave enough to step up. Fighting HWs in his am run, and beating or giving hell to the best of them. His jaw is already well proven by fighting HWs

    My point - since the emergence of the Russians/EE's you can no longer slight am pedigree the way certain posters on here do - they are destroying the best of pros who are brave enough to step up

    I know this stings for a lot of you, but the entire scene has changed

    GGG - comparisons to Hagler
    Loma - comparisons to Pep
    Beterbiev - comparisons to Marciano

    But, for comedic value lets just stick to the OP.... yes Don Cockell would be far too much for an "unproven" comodity like Artur
     
  10. choklab

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    Audley did not have limited skills. He was a tall athletic southpaw with a lot of ability. Lenox Lewis admired his inside game. His career in the pros just did not pan out. That's all. What ever it was down to it was not for lack of size or skills.
     
  11. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    It was down to his cowardly instincts and his glass jaw

    Artur is the polar opposite
     
  12. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beterbiev has already been knocked down by a single punch by the mighty Jeff Page Jnr who is basically a journeyman.

    I'd wait a bit before claiming we should all be running for the hills at the mention of his name.

    He's still unproven in the pros.
     
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  13. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    It's interesting how if Beterbiev was filmed with 50's cameras, the harsh critics here would call him doo doo.

    Low hands.
    Little use of head movement.

    If you mentioned his power, they'd scoff at you.
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Your posts aren't worth addressing, just trolling garbage.
     
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Who said he didn't have power? So did Lamar Clark!What the more objective posters on this thread have said is he is not yet proven. If you want to believe, as the OP says that he crushes Marciano ,be my guest! WGAF!