Canelo: $15M Is More Than Golovkin Deserves. Take it or Leave it.

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  1. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I hope to be just like you when I revert to young again.
     
  2. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you will die and rot. there is just one life. i am not young, i am fifty.
     
  3. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is true for 99%, so it's normal to think this way. When I was fifty, I was ignorant too, splitting atoms as if a pair of jeans, with mind alone. Later, thinking them into existence became nirvana.
     
  4. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i guess no one could argue your genius. you are obviously immortal, filled with the knowledge of a hundred lifetimes.
     
  5. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The point of the thread is, Golovkin is definitely not immortal and time is swiftly running out for him to make big fights.Of course he is limited and doesn't possess my infinite world-view, but hardly anyone does.
    He should have taken the GBP offer and started making a real legacy for himself.
     
  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can you not read,the question was can you be ranked no 1?
     
  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isal that's just not quite true and you know it,granted about highest paid maybe but the PPV star is somewhat sketchy don't you think,that said I'm giving credit for the Chavez fight.
     
  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Read the same thing on news 24 tonight,ever since Lara he's played it mega safe which hasn't gone unnoticed.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    kirk,

    That's exactly what I'm talking about - realistic, Big Money fights.

    Again: I said that if Canelo doesn't fight GG after Chavez in September, he won't have lots of big money options. So I was looking ahead to September and beyond. Yes, depending on the outcome of their fight in May, they could potentially have a rematch.

    Yes, I agree about a Cotto rematch, but is it viable? Do people want to see it again? Cotto is a faded guy who's never been a MW. Personally, I think it would flop.

    It isn't the end of the discussion. You've only named 2 big fights, again, one of which may not be viable, and the other one depending on the outcome of their first fight. But I'll give them to you.

    No, Canelo doesn't have MANY other fights that would make more than GG could make by either going back to the U.K. or fighting Chavez in the U.S.

    How many of the above would be big money fights??


    Eubank - wouldn't be a big fight for Canelo outside of the U.K. and it's unrealistic that Oscar would take Canelo over.

    Saunders - As above. That isn't a big fight outside of the U.K. Nobody in the U.S. and Mexico knows who Saunders and Eubank are. They wouldn't generate huge PPV numbers, just like fights against Lara, Trout and Smith etc.

    Charlo - Potentially a great fight. But at this stage, it isn't a huge fight. He's only just beginning to make waves.

    Lemieux - How on earth is that a big money fight?

    Andrade - As above.

    Lee - As above. That wouldn't be a big money fight.


    Again: Only Cotto and Chavez would be big money fights, but the Cotto fight wouldn't generate as much as the first, and Cotto would be hard to negotiate with.

    You have only given me 2 fights.


    Again: If GG goes back to the U.K. for: Smith, Eubank, BJS, Groves, or DeGale, on BT Sport/Boxnation/Sky, they're going to be huge U.K. events supported by stacked cards. They would net him guaranteed purses of $5m plus.

    Depending on the outcome of Chavez-Canelo, he could also potentially fight Chavez.


    That's 6 potential/realistic big money fights for GG.

    From your list, Canelo has 2.

    I'm not going to tell you they're not realistic.

    GG isn't currently interested in Ramirez because he still has goals to achieve at MW.

    Regarding Eubank, that fight can definitely happen. It was Eubank Snr who got carried away and prevented the fight from happening, but he now realises it was foolish. Tom Loeffler stated last month that they'd still be willing to take the fight.

    Again: Unless Canelo travelled to the U.K. or moved up beyond MW, both of which are highly unlikely, GG has more big money fight options that would be realistic.

    Again:

    Canelo - Chavez, Cotto.

    GG - De Gale, Groves, Smith, Eubank, Saunders and Chavez.
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Bull Feces The weight limit for middleweight title fights is 160 pounds End of story
    a fighter can come in at 130 if he wants but his opponent can weigh 160
     
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  11. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That's what Golovkin/K2 said, and why Golovkin's resume is still filled with nobodies and also why Cotto-Canelo jacked $30M MW dollars out of his pocket.
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Reread my initial post, Einstein.

    You can't do direct comparisons between 2 different countries, in 2 different continents, using 2 different currencies.

    What will you do within the next few months? Will you be showing us some sums to claim that Canelo's fight against Smith was more popular than AJ-Wlad, due to the price difference and projected numbers?

    The fact is: You're a pathetic joke who's devoted his spare time to hating a guy he doesn't even know. It's now got to the stage that you can't even admit that GG is popular in the U.K. because it doesn't suit your agenda.

    If you want to do a fair comparison, compare the Brook PPV to some other British PPV's. Likewise: If you want to see if Canelo-Smith was successful, compare it to his other fights, taking into account all of the relevant figures.

    If GG wasn't popular with no appeal, the fight wouldn't have been successful, and Eddie Hearn wouldn't have given him and Brook £5m apiece.


    Tell us again how GG will duck Jacobs.

    Clown.
     
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  13. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yes, of course you can.
    Else, a US company would find it impossible to purchase a foreign company.
    For example, a US company bid for buying out a France based food company who had 50 subsidiaries in 42 different countries, all using different currencies and was able to calculate it's true net worth to within a few million dollars.
    It's not magic. Just simple math.
     
  14. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Answer to that is easy As I have said many times before

    !!!!!!!!! BOXING IS CORRUPT !!!!!!!!
    $$$$$$$ & influence gets you favors from corrupt commissions & alphabet orgs
     
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  15. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the fight hasn't been refused. it is still in negotiations.