Which fighter iyo could stand toe to toe with a prime foreman. And win?

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  1. MUFA$A

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    Sonny Liston was stronger than George Foreman and was durable enough in his prime to withstand Big George bombs and give it back just as Good with equal power. Listons punishing jab would be hell for the slower Foreman who would be coming straight forward winging wide wild punches walking right into it. He does not have the boxing IQ to neutralize the Jab or get away from it.

    Lennox Lewis can definitely hurt Foreman, that power he had in his right hand was brutal. But Unfortunately he did not have the chin that is needed to survive a toe to toe war with Foreman. Trading Blow for blow , he wont be the last man standing . Lewis gets slepted in 5 rounds.

    David Tua is a great candidate for a toe to toe war with Foreman. He has a much better chance compared to Lennox Lewis.
    Tua had an unbelievable iron chin and devastating Knockout power. I can see Tua sending Foreman down to the canvas the same exact way Lyle did. Tua was a one dimensional fighter but that wouldent matter since this is a toe to toe fight. Foreman still has a chance of winning this fight but it can also depend who gasses out first. 50/50 IMHO

    Out of those 3 men, A genetic freak like Sonny Liston is very likely the right man to get the job done.
     
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    Sonny Liston
     
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    Funny out of all the people mentioned, no one is 100% confident they could win. Foreman has a good chancing of beating them all in this scenario.

    Tyson was too short and his arms werent long enough to "beat foreman to the punch" that doesnt even make sense...he would lose a fire fight trading blows. Basic physics and biology. An actual boxing match i give him a much better chance with his combinations, defenss, ring iq, etc but tyson sucked on the inside and as rough and tough as he was, wasnt the best brawler.

    Tua is as tough as anyone but like tyson, too short to overcome the leverage and height of the equally powerful foreman. Tua was in love with his hook and foreman would notice and avoid it. Hed neutralize it pushing him back and throwing his bulldozozing uppercuts.

    Vitali is possible...but he failed to stop a stationary briggs or a fat end of his career lewis. He was also susceptible to cuts. Wouldnt be confident betting on him. It would be a very entertaining scrap either way.

    McCall...wouldnt win a shoot out. He had the size and chin for sure, but lacked the killer instinct and fire power outside of an overhand right. He MIGHT still be standing once the ref has seen enough and ends it.

    Overall id say Bowe and Ike are the safest bets. They had ridiculous chins, staggering power, and most importantly, stamina. Those are the 3 ingredients needed to survive a war withe Foreman. Mercer and Liston were tough as nails and had plenty of dog in them so anything could happen.
     
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    go to watch the cartoons please kid
     
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    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Nobody had mentioned Joe Louis in his prime. The Brown Bomber would survive some scary moments but more or less have target practice against Big George. Foreman was awesome but I don`t think the styles works in his favor here. Some may point to Joe`s chin but even if he went down he would get up still dangerous. Louis had those quick hands and crisp combinations. He would land first and land last. I think Foeman would land too but not as clean as Louis would. One thing nobody ever wanted was Joe Louis hitting them.
     
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    The thing is toe to toe means toe to toe.

    Tyson, Dempsey and Louis can maybe beat him, but not toe to toe.

    Only Liston can play that game and maybe win.
     
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    Exactly. In an actual boxing match where theyre allowed to use ring generalship and lateral movement, combos, etc i give louis dempsey tyson a big chance but a brawl? Hell no.
     
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    Could Dempsey even beat Willard toe to toe? Probably not.

    He had to circle, play with range and angles.
     
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    Louis is a fair pick , Because he has enough power and speed to put a hurting on Big George.

    But can he stand up to Big George and outlast him ? That i would Love to see.
     
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    To be fair, I'm not picking Liston to win. I'm picking him to be qualified for the challenge.

    Boxeo is passionate about what he knows best. But he's a cool guy who's been for years and years. If you go beyond his brash style, there's usually good knowledge in his posts!
     
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    Thats cool, i dont mind someone being passionate about the sport. I love the sport as well and enjoy interacting with other boxing fans. What im not going to tolerate is disrespect and insults. Ima grown ass man and I dont play that . We all have the right to our own opinion no matter how much we disagree with one another.
     
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    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Louis could outlast Foreman as far as stamina and conditioning are concerned. Whether his chin holds up is the question but Foreman`s would be tested too.
     
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    Prime Larry Holmes gets there first with his jab and gives him the Shavers treatment.
     
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    On the same note Shavers just maybe lands the big one before George does.
     
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    Agreed. Foreman will indeed get chinchecked, Louis is very much capable of rocking Big George , especially early in the fight.