What do you count as a landed punch?

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  1. TinFoilHat

    TinFoilHat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've long wondered what a compubox person counts as a punch. Here is a bit I pulled from Compubox website:

    "CompuBox, Inc. provides real-time statistical data for all major boxing fights. CompuBox developed software that categorizes punches into Jabs (thrown and landed) and Power Punches (thrown and landed). Jabs and Power Punches are combined to create Total Punches thrown and landed. The stats are tracked by two human operators with one operator tracking stats for each fighter. The operators are extensively trained to watch a fight differently than a normal fan would. Each operator concentrates on only one fighter and not the fight as a whole to accurately track the stats."

    There are so many different scenarios and types of punches landed:

    1.Punch lands clean as if he was talking to the guy in a pub and sucker punched him
    2.Punch lands clean but fighter sees it at last second and rolls with it
    3.Punch lands, but grazes gloves/guard on the way in, slowing it
    4.Punch grazes the head of a fighter as he is slipping the punch
    5.Some of the glove still makes contact but all the force is absorbed by the fighters gaurd (think of a body shot that a fighter blocks with elbow but part of glove touches body still

    Assuming all of these punches have the same amount of force applied as they take off, I would say I would only count 1,2,3. I seriously think they have a compubox person for each fighter and I think that sometimes one of the people counting punches is a lot more conservative than the person assigned to the other fighter. This is what accounts for the large discrepancies in Compubox numbers.
     
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  2. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    1, 2 and 3 , for me... 3 is like getting shot at down the middle with a high guard and the force from the shot opens enough of a gap to penetrate and smack your face right? thats a scoring shot no doubt
     
  3. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I think compubox is a good guideline to portray how the fight goes. But still it is not to determine who actually win a round or the fight. I trust my eyes to gauge how hard a punch landed and how much damage it does, and usually the one landed more of those are the one who wins the round.

    I apologise if this is not what you intended for your post. It's just that to me number of punches counts by compubox is not that relevant in scoring most of the time.
     
  4. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I don't trust compubox. Anyone who swears by it as evidence for the winner needs to be euthanized.
     
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  5. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't think it's a good way to judge if a fighter wins or not but does help. Especially if a fighter wins by a wide margin but the judges give it to the other guy...

    1,2 & 3 for me.
     
  6. TinFoilHat

    TinFoilHat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I just think it's surprising that it is essentially just a human and some people trust it so much. It's really apparent a person could be biased or just count more punches than another. I kind of think in 10 years or less computers will be able to do this quite well. Maybe then they will actually be decent stats to go by.
     
  7. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    One that floors the opponent.
     
  8. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Compubox is very unreliable.
    CompuClinch is much more accurate.

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  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    A punch that lands cleanly with some force.
     
  10. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    What about taps on the head?

    Was thinking about this after watching the slow motion version of maypac.
     
  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Punches that clearly land clean, wrestling does not count. I do not trust compubox. Watch Kovalev Vs. SOB, Kovalev landed punches, staggered SOB with a jab, then knocked him down, but the biased judges gave SOB a gift. SOB will not fight Kovalev in a rematch, and for good reason, he cheated and he knows it. He got his dirty arse beaten, look at his face...............................SOB will be taken to court, will give up the titles and run and hide.......................
     
  12. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Any punch that isn't dodged/blocked by arms and gloves, or whatever punch Mayweather throws. **** compubox.
     
  13. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    The name is so misleading that it should be legally forced to change. I've known people who watch boxing regularly to think it's scored by an impartial computer rather than a group of men.
     
  14. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Not sure about the men part. CJ Ross could be one of them.