I can't believe Peter Fury is going with Parker

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by covetousjuice, Feb 27, 2017.


Hughie v Parker outcome

Poll closed Mar 27, 2017.
  1. Hughie has the clear advantage

    1.8%
  2. Hughie by a slight margin

    14.5%
  3. It's roughly 50/50

    1.8%
  4. "I have no idea"

    7.3%
  5. Parker by a slight margin

    25.5%
  6. Parker has the clear advantage

    49.1%
  1. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Why did they think it was a good idea to face Parker now?

    If this were some random fighter, a non-Fury, I don't think I would give Hughie any chance.

    He's too green. Too inexperienced. No wins over anyone approaching Parker's level.

    I'm not a huge Parker fan, but he's good enough that I don't really see how Hughie is supposed to win.

    So how's the fight go? Who wins?
     
  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    GO BIG OR GO HOME

    Don't end up like another Wilder. Hughie is a few fights away from reaching where he needs to be to face a man like Parker but hey it's a challenge good luck to him. If he can pull it off it will propel him very far. That seems to be the way in heavyweight...hard to slowly make your way up you have to take leaps at times especially if you're a superheavyweight (Which Hughie isn't quite)
     
  4. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I just feel like Rudenko to Parker is a leap too far.

    I don't see what Hughie could do to win.
     
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  5. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The two big factors I see taking place in this fight is Furys lack of power and Parkers solid chin. Without an authorative jab, Fury might struggle to keep distance which is his mojo. Without any power in Furys punches, hes not going to trade with the quicker harder punches of Parker unless its the last seconds of the 12th round and the fights in the balance or hes losing. That means that if Fury doesnt stand and exchange, he will go into a shell when pressed, Parker will work Fury like a heavybag and if Fury can, he will clinch or circle outta there. It'll start to look like hunter and survivor. Team Fury already know what Im saying and they have a plan so it'll be interesting but I see it panning out as Ive stated.
     
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  6. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Im going from threads about Wilder not taking any risks and then i read this. If Peter Fury and the rest of the team thought the same as you maybe this fight wouldnt happen. But they have weighed up the risks and have faith in their fighter and think its worth a go. Wish more Boxers did this.
     
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  7. bronerruiz

    bronerruiz New Member banned Full Member

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    Can someone explain to me how Parker has got this reputation as some sort of unstoppable world beater?

    He was fairly average as an amateur and hasn't exactly looked yeons above fringe guys as a pro. He's easy to hit and only decent power. He even sounds punch drunk and he's only about 17. It's not even like people being indoctrinated by TV channels like some of the American hype jobs because he hasn't even been on.

    I've seen nothing to suggest Hughie is going to be destroyed. Don't forget, people who have a keener eye for boxing than many of you, picked Andy Ruiz as a stay busy opponent for Fury, who Parker only just scraped by in his hometown.

    If I had to guess why he was getting this undeserved adulation, it's from the Joshua haters, based on hope and not believe.
     
  8. NakiFan

    NakiFan Proud Kiwi Guy Full Member

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    He is 25 now and has arguably the stronger resume of the current HW belt holders, (prior to AJ vs Wlad). He was very young as an amatuer, and turned pro at 21. Parker always gets the rap of easy to hit, but please take off your blinkers and really see how he evades punches. This clip is an excellent example

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    Andy Ruiz could trouble the best in the division with his very solid chin and come forward approach, just like Takam. Ruiz has never been KO'ed, and has very quick hands to keep his opponents wary. He was far from a stay busy opponent for Hughie if they ever fought. Ruiz would have walked him down and pummelled him in the pocket.
     
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  9. bronerruiz

    bronerruiz New Member banned Full Member

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    I'm not talking about his resume, I'm talking about his reputation as a world beater.

    Those defensive highlights isn't breathtaking really is it? It's not like Takam is throwing anything that Parker should trouble to see coming, he throws wide punches and has never even heard of a faint and I'm sure someone could produce a video showing his frailties which would counter that.

    And what are you basing Andy Ruiz could trouble the best in the division on, other than Parker struggled with him? I've seen plenty of fights where he looks mediocre against bums. I think that comment is more of you hoping it's true, than having anything factual to back it up. If Joshua, Klitschko, Tyson Fury, Ortiz or Wilder had performed to the same level v Ruiz their detractors would have had an absolute field day.

    I don't have anything against Parker but I just don't understand where the hype has come from (and it was there before 'he got the best resume of all current belt holders')

    With other massively hyped prospects like say Spence, I get the hype, whether I agree they have different levels to get to or not. I can see people would think' wow! I wasn't expecting him to do that to Algieri or Bundu' or Gervonta Davis v Pedraza, but after Parkers performances against Takam and Ruiz, I merely just thought, 'meh'
     
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  10. Farmboxer

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    Hughie has potential, but hasn't looked good since his illness...........................so I have to pick Parker, unless Hughie is healthy once again, then it will be interesting.......................
     
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  11. madballster

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    Peter knows Tyson won't get in the ring anytime soon and he needs a new cash cow. That's why they throw Hugie in this early.
     
  12. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Each to their own. You asked a question and Nakifan tried to answer it for you. Maybe the answers wont change your perspective on Parker, maybe youre looking to make a statement rather than a question such as your intial.

    You like so many, have not been impressed by Parkers performances against Takam and Ruiz and I can tell you as a Parker fan - neither was I! I wanted a knockout. However Joe told everyone his fight plan and it worked.

    As a Parker fan Im very proud in that Joe;
    • Keeps active giving his fans fights to watch (e.g. 5 fights in 2016)
    • Fights the best available (e.g. Hughie mandatory)
    • Good for the division both in and out of the ring (e.g. after the winning the title in December 2016, he expressed real interest in a unification with Wilder, well documented).
     
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  13. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I don't believe Parker is a world beater. I was very alarmed by his performance against Ruiz. I don't think Ruiz is particularly good.

    Still though, he has some acceptable wins overall. Particularly with Takam. I'd say that's probably a better win than anything Joshua or Wilder has.

    My personal opinion is that he's only good at outside boxing. That's how he beat Takam. He tried to use inside boxing with Ruiz (because he thought he could get away with it), and it almost cost him the fight until Parker gave up and went back to outside boxing.

    Against like Wilder or Joshua, he'll get killed. Outside boxing won't work because he's too short. Inside boxing won't work because they hit hard enough that he'll be kept away.

    Against Hughie? I don't see how Hughie will keep Parker off him. And I think Parker is a class far above anything Hughie has ever faced.

    That's my primary point here. It's not "Parker is so great." It's more "Hughie has faced ****ing no one and doesn't seem to show much that impresses me."
     
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  14. bronerruiz

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    Facing 'no one' doesn't really matter. Fights aren't fought with resumes.

    Bare in mind, in his last fight he completely schooled Kassi. I know he's not a big name but he was coming off two fights where he was robbed of wins over Chris Arreola and Dominic Breazeale. Two men that ended up getting world title shots off the back of that.

    Also remember, Team Fury had evaluated Andy Ruiz to the point they saw him as a suitable stay busy opponent for Fury on a Terry Flanagan undercard. Peter Fury has probably forgotten more than any poster here has ever known about boxing. So either that would've been a disastrous cherry pick gone wrong, Ruiz stylistically is easy for Fury and a nightmare for Parker, or with Parker failing to excel v Ruiz, maybe just maybe the hype surrounding Parker (which I can tell from various interviews boxers conduct is not shared within boxing as it is with spectators - especially given even Wilder seems to be keen to fight Parker) is unjust and Fury has a better chance than you're giving him credit for.
     
  15. bronerruiz

    bronerruiz New Member banned Full Member

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    Good post. I feel that Nakifan didn't really answer the question I posed though. I'm not saying Parker isn't a good fighter or Takam and Ruiz aren't good fighters. I'm aware he beat them but this hype was there before those fights.

    If I was to evaluate where he'd land in the heavyweight climate based on what I've seen so for, he's obviously above the standard defense level guys that AJ and Wilder have defended against, but a level below the top 4 or 5 guys. Kind of Pulev territory.
     
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