Prime liston vs prime holmes. Who would back sonny?

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  1. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I think Larry Holmes would get off the canvas to pull out a decision in a fast, close fight. He could outbox Sonny and possibly cut him with that crisp, laser like jab and the nice cross behind it. Straight, slashing punches tend to do damage. I think Liston would catch Holmes and hurt him maybe a couple of times. I`ll gamble on Larry Holmes`s heart any day of the week. He had a lot of determination and courage.
     
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  2. ETM

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    He was in over his head physically and I think he knew he didn`t belong in there. Similar to Spinks against Tyson.
     
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  3. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston for me here. I just don't think Larry has quite enough of any one thing to deter Sonny enough to dictate the fight. I see him getting hurt, and trying to blast his way out of there and failing.
     
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  4. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is also the possibility of Liston quitting on his stool if he felt seriously outclassed and battered as he did with Ali.
     
  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Ali got into liston s mind and that played a big part in there fight s. Holmes wouldn't go down that line. He would just come to fight. Sonny wouldn't intimidate Larry but sonny wouldn't be affected by holmes like he was Ali
     
  6. BCS8

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    Wow, Liston is getting some love around here!
     
  7. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How exactly did Ali's antics stop Liston from using his boxing skills?
     
  8. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Liston is elevated to an obscene pedestal for trashing mediocrities his entire career, along with a great but severely undersized Floyd Patterson.

    Holmes would beat him up just like the young, unexperienced Clay did.
     
  9. Fergy

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    The same way Patterson was affected by liston aura in there fight s.. It wasn't obviously just ali mind game s that beat liston but he was used to staring down his opponents and using intimidation. Against Ali that didn't work so ali turned it against him. He thought Ali was crazy and had no fear.
     
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  10. Clinton

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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shavers didn't have a jab, Sonny may have had the hardest jab in heavyweight history, him or Foreman. I think Sonny would hit Larry sooner or later with a straight right, and whether Larry could weather the storm is anyone's opinion
     
  12. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Me. I would back Sonny.

    Really close fight, but prime Ali barely avoided 100 KO blows and had the fear of god in his eyes.
    Holmes doesn't have that last millimeter to escape.

    Holmes has a great jab, but Sonny's is as good or better.
    And a big key is what each fighter has behind those jabs.
     
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  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Holmes was caught by Shavers in his absolute peak. He WILL be caught by Liston. Difference is when most fighters have a guy hurt they go all out with everything they have. A guy like Holmes would be crafty enough to survive that. Unfortunately for him, that wasn't Liston. He kept his bombs precise and never missed while performing an execution. Liston KO8.
     
  14. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston has a great left hook off the jab. Holmes had a windshield wiper type swipe. Sonny is going to follow up some jabs with that left hook. And once he hurts Larry, he won't let him fall through the cracks the way other guys did. He'll finish him in like 8 rounds.
     
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  15. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Liston by stoppage.stylistically horrible for holmes, liston was like a tim whiterspoon 2.0 with more power