Wilder-Stiverne II is upon us, confirmed by WBC

Let me school you, you obviously just like to make **** up. First Washington was ranked no. 8, and it's not his fault Pedvetkin is a PED cheat. I like how you're trying to change the subject though. The facts are this is his mandatory, when little G fights his mandatory even though he can move up in weight unlike Wilder you guys get super defensive. GGG's resume is straight CACA and he's in his mid 30's. He's also ranked top 5 p4p by ring, and a lot of people have him in the their top 5 p4p unlike Wilder. So the expectation for GGG should be far greater.
As for you saying there's no evidence of Wilder trying to unify. What should he do? Drop his belt so he can move to cruiser? LMFAO. He doesn't have the option to move up/down in weight like GGG does. He also never claimed that he would fight anyone at 154-175, and his best win isn't a guy 2 divisions below him.

 

Let me stop you there.

Washington isn't ranked in the top 10 by either The Ring or ESPN, do you genuinely think that Washington is the 8th best heavyweight in the world? So going by your own point you think that when someone is ranked in the top 10 by a governing body they are considered in the top 10 fighters in that division in the world?

Laughable.

Next, I don't know why you keep talking about GGG. This is a thread about Wilder. I'm no GGG fan (I'm a Kell Brook fan).

Lastly, you seem very insecure about people criticising Wilder's embarrassing level of competition and are using other fighters in other divisions for some reason as a comparison.

There is NO evidence of Wilder trying to unify and you didn't provide any either.

 

" he has no excuse for facing FIVE voluntaries and not a single one of them ranked in the top 10"

You were OBVIOUSLY talking about sanctioning bodies which is an OFFICIAL ranking. Nice try covering up after I exposed you for lying.

Ok, so what's your point? Should Wilder drop his belt and not fight Stiverne? Should he move down a division like GGG could to seek better opposition? The reason I brought up unification is because Wilder would have to vacate if he didn't fight Stiverne. You're saying that there is no evidence of him wanting to unify, so what exactly do you want him to do about this mandatory?

 

Oh btw, not that ESPN or Ring are official, but Stiverne is ranked number 8 on ESPN. So since you take their lists as gospel even though they are not official rankings, you HAVE to be satisfied.

 

Garbage fight. Stiverne has done nothing to warrant a mando status.

 

Of course I was talking about the top 10 as in TOP 10 FIGHTERS in that division. I don't even know who's ranked in the top 10 by the governing bodies half the time and neither do you.

 

Oh dear oh dear.

Take a look what I said again, and this time read carefully and slow. I guess they skipped reading comprehension at school huh? (And by the looks of your sentence structure, grammar and spelling too..)

I said....

"FIVE voluntaries and not a single one of them ranked in the top 10"

Voluntaries...not mandatories.

Owned.

 

Nobody who watches Boxing goes by the ABC org rankings and if you do you are a fool. Pretty much everyone goes by ESPN, Ring, etc. for who is a legit top 10 Heavyweight or top 10 in any division. Not once have I ever said "let me go look at the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO rankings to see if a guy is a legit contender or not. Wilder in 38 fights has fought exactly ONE top 10 Heavyweight. He also had the luxury of FIVE optional defenses and didn't fight one single top 10 opponent. I think it is a fair question as to when he will finally step up his competition which up to this point has been handpicked by his management.

Stiverne is #8 according to ESPN and not ranked in Ring's top 10.

 

There are no official rankings for top 10 fighter in a division. The only official rankings are sanctioning bodies, so wtf are you going on about him not fighting boxers in the "top 10". There is no official top 10. You can also easily make a case for Duhapaus and Molina being in the top 10(not at the time but after since they both had decent wins).

I mean it's not Wilder's fault Fury is a PED cheat and a drug addict, that Wlad/Joshua are busy, and Hughie/Parker chose an easier route by fighting each other. You can criticize Wilder for not fighting Ortiz, but Ortiz is like the definition of high risk low reward, not to mention he's also a past drug cheat.

You haven't answered my question though. I love how you pick and choose, because you know you got no answer. What do you want Wilder to do about this mandatory. Since you say there's no evidence of him wanting to unify, should he drop his belt?

 

Well he was bringing up OFFICIAL rankings, and voluntaries granted by a sanctioning body, so he was obviously refering to rankings in a sanctioning bdoy.

Malik Scott has been ranked in the top 10 in ring, Eric Molina too I believe, not sure about Duhapaus, but he'd easily be a good candidate there.

Anyways back to the MAIN topic. Stiverne is his mandatory. You little g fan girls get super defensive when he fights his mandatory, so what should Wilder do? Vacate?

 

Read Rico's post above.

About the mandatory, Wilder and his team definitely get some say. They should absolutely question the choice of Stiverne as a mandatory.

Also as far as I know, unifications take precedents over mandatories. So Wilder can absolutely challenge Parker or the winner of Joshua/Klitschko and not give up his belt.

 

No I WASN'T. Rico speaks sense.

Anyone with EYES can tell this.

 

Are you actually that slow? When did I say Stiverne was a voluntary? You OBVIOUSLY responded to my first post because you have a problem with Wilder fighting Stiverne, which is why you said "A mandatory that he already won every round against.

What would you say if GGG tried to fight Wade next because he "somehow" stayed as #1 on the rankings!".

How many more times do I have to school you? So you don't have a problem with Wilder fighting Stiverne since it's his mandatory and he's ranked #8 on ESPN right?

 

You quoted my post where I said "FIVE voluntaries and not a single one of them ranked in the top 10"

Then you said "You were OBVIOUSLY talking about sanctioning bodies which is an OFFICIAL ranking" and then brought up Stiverne as someone who was in the ESPN top 10....when he was never a voluntary.

 

He's ranked #8 on ESPN, so what's your issue? You're the one that brought up ESPN/The Ring rankings, don't go back on it now. So if Wilder and his team has a say on their mandatory, Brook should be criticized for fighting like 3 bum mandatories after fighting 1 top 10 WW right? He had a say on those mandos too according to you.