Would it be fair to say Tony Bellew would run through Wilders resume with ease?

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  1. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    So I just showed you how very feasible it is not to have Valuev in the top 20, and because you disagree that person is stupid and has "embarrassed" themselves. Typical Haye fan logic. The only thing embarrassing and stupid here is that you think Valuev would be a top fighter today.
     
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  2. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    A top 20 fighter, yes. His size and chin alone would allow him to break into the top 20.

    You showed me nothing other than a joke of a list post the initial ten. If you genuinely believe current Stiverne beats titlist Valuev then you are a moron. To then rank him beneath the likes of Whyte is absurd to me as are a number of other names on your list.

    Again for the millionth time, this isn't about Haye it's about you not knowing **** about boxing. You hate Haye, that much is clear and there are numerous reasons to dislike him both as a fighter and a man which makes it all the more weird that you're reaching so much here.
     
  3. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    I didn't count how many fighters I listed initially they were just the ones that came to mind, for the 2nd list I had to look at the rankings. Looking back I listed 16 fighters initially (you said 10, and I did not rank Stiverne in the top 10).

    It's very, very feasible not to have Valuev ranked in the top 20 today. Haye never beat a top heavyweight as Valuev wasn't a top heavyweight. I'm sorry if that offends you fanboy.

    Don't worry though you'll get to see your hero knock someone out later tonight so that should satisfy you for the time being.
     
  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Do a poll then and see if anyone agrees with you, they won't.

    And if it makes you feel better to think Haye is my hero knock yourself out.
     
  5. Big Ukrainian

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    LOL no.

    Bellew was knocked down multiple times by average LHWs. He was KO'd by the only elite LHW he has ever fought.

    He gets KO'd by Stiverne and Washington, maybe someone else.
    Washington beat Eddie Chambers who is better than Bellew, he drew with Mansour who would've destroyed Bellew.
     
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  6. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Another trait of David Haye fans, thinking the world revolves around them...just like the fighter.

    Rank me Valuev in amongst all the fighters I posted then, let's see where you would have him. Let's see if you are deluded as I think you are.
     
  7. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All but Nichols and Sconiers.

    Those two are the toughest and most perrenial contenders of our generation

    It's always a coin toss going up against those cagey,skilled veterans.
    The true Archie Moore's of our time
     
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  8. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Let's assume the following beat Valuev comfortably. Fury, Wlad, AJ, Povetkin, Parker and Ortiz.

    Then I'll go and say that the following prob beat Valuev - current Haye who we've not seen tested yet so has questions marks, Wilder - he prob wins handily but what happens when he can't knock someone out - Ruiz Jr, Hughie still waiting to see what they've got and Pulev is hugely overrated so I wouldn't pick him with much confidence.

    Jennings, Whyte Chisora are all there to be beaten. Stiverne, Charr and Helenius are totally shot and weren't that good to start with I think Valuev would beat them pretty easily. He'd also beat this version of Chag, Wach, Washington, Breazeale, Duhaupas and Ustinov. Takam is solid but Valuev would be favourite and Miller has never impressed me, Valuev would prob beat him too.
     
  9. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Additionally @yesihavearm2 is this you by any chance?

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  10. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Haha.

    I love IFL tv, some of those interviews crack me up.
     
  11. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    :)
     
  12. GGGunbeatable

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    Bellew would beat everyone on Wilder's resume.
     
  13. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The 'fight' was clearly fixed and Hearn has turned British boxing into WWE. Any of you mentally subnormal rats who buy these PPV's are why we need eugenics.
     
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  14. Loudon

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    I don't think so.

    The first name that springs to mind is Artur Szpilka.

    I think that would be a bad match up stylistically.
     
  15. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Maybe he wouldn't beat everyone, but lots of people in this tread were saying he wouldn't beat De Mori or Molina.
     
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