Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins this super fight?

Hes rapidly improving with slight accuracy ( which adds to being elite vs average)and overall fluidity with punching and getting harder to land on ( you may not see them,but watch every fight from 1 to 18 you will see what im talking about.) Most fighters of talent improves greatly in 15/20 fights, those are key numbers before they step deeper...Joshua is so good hes fighting Klitchko...ignore the age concentrate on the reality of how dangerous Wlad is. Joshua has been playing around with everyone,this one hes not playing for obvious reasons thats why you will see the real Joshua,whatever the hell that is....lol

Heres a vid clips showing all k.os ,you can even see here how he starts putting everything together fight to fight.

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I agree lock this thread and I think the voting at the start had some trolls voting, but I am here to make something clear and that is nobody in the history of the heavyweight division is ever ranked higher than Ali so just stop your stupid posts. You can never alter Ali greatness, He is forever

 

"nobody in the history of the heavyweight division is ever ranked higher than Ali " Which is a very good point my friend and it shows the out dated thinking and on going chain why boxing fans go backwards than other combat sports fans! And a good reminder why i limit myself in that particular section because its like trying to convince most there that the sky is blue on almost every topic,its usually quite comical TBH. Certainly such a boxing intellect such as yourself could surley break this match up down correct?

No one else seems to want to give ANY CREDIBLE post that ACTUALLY is aboput the thread in favor of Ali. Or did you just pop in to show your vast knowledge of Ali vs Joshua ? wow ive never seen such a great post before on your part ,im stunned...lmao!

All you cry babies crying over the thread because you CANT actually break this down bc it would be very bad match up in favor of you know who!

 

i think its more of a "nobody gives a ****" if you want to believe that a line backer would beat ali, as if 6.5' men didnt exist in the 70's.

 

You don't even know wtf bait and switching is lmao.

I never said he was more effective in the 60s, I said he was most effective in the 212 range. If you look at all of his top fights where he did the best, he is in that range. Liston (210), Williams (213), Norton II (212), Frazier II (212), Foreman (216). I need not go on. Foreman and Liston were the strongest guys he ever fought there is no denying that and he handled them physically just fine or at least as best as he ever would.

Ali in and around his best weight of 212 will be most effective against Joshua. Not no 220 lb past prime version. It's literally 8 lbs idk why you are making such a fuss about it. If Ali can't beat him at 212 then 8 lbs won't save him.

I never said Lewis would be more effective but he would be harder to hit. See, your problem is you only comprehend basic 1 dimensional ideas. If Lewis was 6 ft with 82 inch reach he wouldn't be fighting like he did at 6 ft 5. He would adopt a style closer to that of Langford or Liston.

So you're telling me that by Ali being around 230 in some fights that that didn't slow down his footwork? Lol get real dude you are so full of ****. Ali trained hard whether you believe it or not. He wasn't sitting on the couch eating Lays like you would have everyone think.

This isn't even LIKE talking to a little boy I AM talking to a little boy. Only an irrational child could talk as much **** as you do.

 

A draw

 

Well its easy, you cherry picked information. If you had done any other research, you would have seen that that was the lowest Ali had weighed in 4 years and he never weighed in that low again. If you look even further, Ali never weighed in below 211 from '66 to the end of his career. The extra 11 lbs was muscle too, not water weight. That's what you don't get, when fighters rehydrate, they aren't putting on muscle they are putting on pure water weight.

An example of a couple lbs making a difference is Joe Louis vs Billy Conn. Louis only weighed about 203 in the previous couple of fights but he wanted to be sub 200 so it didn't seem like a total mismatch. Well, Louis cut the extra weight off and it nearly cost him the fight.

 

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And Joshua does that? He's never remotely fought anyone with the movement and speed of Ali.
You say Joshua has speed, well relatively speaking for a 6'6" 240 pound fighter, but compared to
Ali he's a statuesque plodder.
It would be an easy nights work for Ali, speed and agility gave Ali problems, things which your boy simply doesn't possess.

 

This is 201 ali on the weigh in: [url]http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/world-heavyweight-title-henry-cooper-looking-at-the-scale-news-photo/137480060#boxing-world-heavyweight-title-henry-cooper-looking-at-the-scale-of-picture-id137480060[/url]

This is during the fight: [url]https://www.google.se/search?q=ali+vs+cooper+2+weigh+in&client=ms-android-samsung&biw=360&bih=560&tbm=isch&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj4ldqNzcHSAhVBoywKHZTAAKwQ_AUIBygB&dpr=2#tbm=isch&q=ali+vs+cooper+1966+weigh+in&*&imgrc=QLMiq8oJGMax1M[/url]:

Compare that to 220 Ali vs frazier: [url]https://www.google.se/search?q=ali+vs+cooper+2+weigh+in&client=ms-android-samsung&biw=360&bih=560&tbm=isch&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj4ldqNzcHSAhVBoywKHZTAAKwQ_AUIBygB&dpr=2#tbm=isch&q=ali+frazier+220+pounds&*&imgrc=JavSGv1kdQ5-2M[/url]:

He looks fat.

The muscles you are talking about isnt there. I would say water and fat. Easy cutting for him.

 

People can't break it down? It's broken down and obvious. Ali is faster of both hand and foot, is infinitely more talented and Joshua isn't anything he hasn't seen before, oh sorry he's big.
You're showing video clips of him beating various bums, and that's your evidence that he'd beat Ali?
I like Joshua, in 5 or 6 years I may, and just may, talk about him in the same paragraph as Ali, as he'll never be in the same sentence.
Oh sorry he will, because he's big.

 

TBH Joshua looks like he's going to be extremely dominant. Would def pick him to destroy wilder

 

Closest thing Joshua has seen to Ali is Savon who beat him at the Olympics no matter what the judges say.

Joshua struggled with the movement of Savon and Dychko, how is he going to cope with Ali? Not well in my opinion, too fast, too agile, too elusive in his prime, Ali UD

 

Just stop positing you absolute f*cking idiot.

Seriously, what's wrong with you?


Ali wouldn't be a CW today, and he wasn't 201 pounds in his prime.

Comparing Ali-Joshua to Khan-Kovalev, is one of the most ret*rded things I've ever seen. You can't just compare their sizes, and then say it would be like fighters from 2/3 different weight classes fighting each other. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Ha! So let's look at Mike Tyson and compare his vital stats to Joshua's. Give me the difference in numbers. Would that be akin to a MW fighting a LW? Why don't you have a little think before answering.

Boxing is divided by weight classes? They were BOTH HW's you clown.

"Ali's got some speed..." Yeah, he just had SOME speed. Ha!

Hopefully, you'll one day discover that size alone doesn't win fights, and that been much bigger than your opponent, isn't always an advantage.

You probably think that Mike Tyson would be crushed today.


You are an absolute embarrassment.

 

Why wouldn't Cooper's punch have had that nickname if he fought today?

Foreman didn't only land a FEW shots on Ali. He battered his body, and Ali urinated blood in the days that followed.

Ali wouldn't have gone to the ropes against Joshua.

He voluntarily went to the ropes in Zaire after just 2 rounds.

Congratulations on another clueless post.