Would Lewis have gone through wlad s opponents undefeated?

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  1. GordonGarner65

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    Quite A few of Lewis' opponents would fancy themselves to deck him.
     
  2. GordonGarner65

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    The consistently low grade of opponent and consistently outsized opponent was also unprecedented.
     
  3. KuRuPT

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    The simple answer is no he wouldn't, but there's a caveat, if he was prime and focused for every one of these fights, sure he'd win. However, that isn't really the question posed here. He'd have to work his way through age and mental lapses. In his career this happened, so why would I suppose it would in this situation. He would lose, and devastatingly so at some point.
     
  4. GordonGarner65

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    I like Fury, but you are saying he beats Lennox ? Seriously ?
    You've got to be able to seriously punch to have a chance to beat Lennox !
     
  5. ticar

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    lennox never fought someone with movement and slickness, let alone a mobile giant freak master boxer like fury

    he beats the vitali version, and would give hell and maybe even beat the prime version...

    bold - that's what everybody was thinking about wlad until fury proved them wrong...
     
  6. The Kentucky Cobra

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    Sour grapes.

    Low grade doesn't really mean anything. I won't call any world class opponent low grade, especially fighters that were rated or had been rated at some point.

    Outsized opponents at an unprecedented rate? Can you support this with facts or just making an unfounded claim.
     
  7. GordonGarner65

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    Im not gonna get into talking bad about Fury, i really like the guy and still wanna see how far he can take things. When somebody is unbeaten you just never know how good they are.
    All i can honestly say is that if my Life was on the line on picking right between Dusseldorf Fury and any Good version of Lewis, i pick Lennox without hesitation and i'm not feelin any need to tell the kids where my will is stored.
     
  8. ticar

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    i got you, obviously lewis is more proven but dusseldorf fury looked great to me... i think his movement, slickness and
    unpredictability are gonna pose some serious problems for lewis... lewis never fought a slickster, someone like fury could possibly box circles around him and make him look clumsy, at least the version from the vitali fight..

    for the record i think tubbs could have upset lewis around 1990 if they were to fight...
     
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  9. GordonGarner65

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    How many of Wlads fights had the situation where pre fight there was anticpation of a competetive fight ?
    I totally lost interest in the whole thing.
    The fights became almost non contact. The crowd were all half asleep , now it may have been that hypnotic blue lighting in the arena they always seemed to use, or it maybe the sheer dullness of the fights themselves.
    You seriously cant compare his list of oppostion to that of Lewis ? Im not going to waste energy debating that, you either see it or you dont.
    The gulf in ability overall is totally overwhelming.
    You obviously thought Wlads era was a good one, personally i cannot fathom why, but you are entitled to your view and thats fine.
     
  10. Mr.DagoWop

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    No, Lewis' chin wasn't that good when it was tested so he would get knocked out sooner or later against Wlad's opposition which was pretty weak.
     
  11. janitor

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    It is very likely that he would not have gone through Wlad’s opponents undefeated, but one of the men who defeated him would not have been Ross Purity.
     
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    I'm really trying here with your Fury thing, but sorry i would make Lennox a huge favourite to beat him.
    As for Tubbs, again you've picked a fighter i like, the very best of Tony could be tricky for anyone,but honestly i think Lennox walks right through him.
    Have a refresh on youtube of some of Lennox best wins ( Ruddock,Golota,Grant,Tua, Morrison,Rahman2 and these opponents were no mugs) just have a refresh of how good he was. Yes he had a few lethargic performances but he was seriously big, strong, mobile and could bang.He had a terrific jab and a right hand with some fizz.
    How else do you get a big succesful heavyweight like Akinwande clinging on and holding for dear life once he realised what he was in the ring with.
     
  13. GordonGarner65

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    Oh no, not the Lewis weak chin again ?
    Do you think the following guys could bang a bit ?
    Mason
    Bruno
    Morrison
    Mercer
    Tyson
    Klitschko
    Ruddock
    Tua
    Briggs.

    How on God's earth do you beat that lot with a weak chin ?

    I could go on and on... If you fight enough of them someone is gonna tag you sooner or later.
     
  14. Mr.DagoWop

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    I said it wasn't that good, not weak. Some of those guys never even landed solid enough on Lewis's chin to actually test it. Tua for one couldn't even get past the jab the whole fight.

    Point is you don't get knocked out like Lewis did twice and still be considered to have a good chin.
     
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  15. ticar

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    i rate lewis highly h2h, and obviously he has a great record... but he never fought a slick boxer or a southpaw.
    there were rumours he didn't want to fight byrd cause byrd could possibly make him look bad...
    especially in the early part of his career he had some balance problems looking raw at times... i think tubbs could have very well beat him at that time

    he had some impressive wins, the fighters you mentioned, but as i said, there wasn't any slick and mobile boxer between them...

    for the record, i like bowe over lewis as far as h2h and ability... those 2 one punch knockouts were embarrassing, but nevertheless he's top 10, maybe top 5 legacy and h2h
     
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