Could tyson fury have beaten the Lewis of vitali fight?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Could the fury of the wlad fight have beaten Lewis that night. Behind on the cards and gassing, managing to defeat vit by way of his facial injuries. So could tyson do it or does lennox leave as champ?
     
  2. GordonGarner65

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    I like alot of your threads Fergy but these kind are a bit pointless ( just my opinion mate). There comes a point when anybody can beat anybody.Berbick beat Ali, but so what ?
    Any younger, big mobile HW could be said to have a chance against that version of Lewis, but the fact was he still beat an extremely dangerous Vitali.
    Lennox then used his brains ( whilst he still had them) and retired. I'm not suggesting you, but some people seem to hold that against him.
    I respectfully suggest a better thread would be Dusseldorf Fury v Peak Lennox (Golota Lennox/Grant Lennox/Tua Lennox /take your pick) Otherwise you may as well match Peak Lennox versus Cancelled Fight Fat press conference Fury. It can just get silly.
    May as well match 'em up peak v peak ?
    Dont take offence, i like your enthusiasm !
     
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  3. BCS8

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    I think he may have well done so, because of styles.

    Vitali was beating the brakes off Lewis for most of their fight, and I think that his dimensions were problematic for Lewis.

    Add to this the fact that Lennox was in woeful shape for that one, and one can't even say that "yeah, Fury might win the early rounds but Lewis drowns him late." Given Fury's unwillingness to engage and mobility, Lewis' big equalizer, his power, doesn't factor into the equation as much as it did VS Vitali.

    I think Fury by decision, and he makes Lennox look pedestrian in comparison.
     
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  4. Fergy

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    No offence whatsoevers mate. The reason I picked tyson fury in particular is that a few posters commented on tyson beating wlad because he was old , past it etc. So Lewis managing to defeat a younger man in vit, even though though by skin of his teeth, could Lewis have beaten fury. It s more of a question how good fury was against wlad rather than how bad far gone Lewis was. But no offence gg, your a great asset to this forum.
     
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  5. GordonGarner65

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    Good that we understand one another.
    I could say put my pal Burt Biggs 1987 15-0 against Tyson of the Mcbride fight , Biggsy picks up a win, instead of a beating, but it proves nothing.
    Maybe im a bit defensive where Lewis is concerned, i detect a subtle but slight negativity to him from many on here, compared to a rather fanboy feel to someone like Foreman.
    But i get ya . Cheers
     
  6. Fergy

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    Yes I've picked up on the negative vibes regarding Lewis to. But definitely not intended in my post mate. In fact it's more how some people seem to be putting fury on a level with ATG s that puzzles me. That was the basis for my thread really. Could a unproven fury beat a great that night. I'm a big lennox fan so no negative stuff from this guy gg.
     
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  7. Big Ukrainian

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    I think Lewis at 37 was still very dangerous for anyone.

    But on the other hand he already lost his speed and reflexes.

    Just compare Lewis from Rahman2 to Lewis from Vitali fight. Only 1,5 years apart, but what a difference in speed.

    So I pick Fury on points here.

    As I stated in the other thread, I definitely pick Fury over 39 y.o. Lewis and over any 39 y.o. great HW unless they land a lucky punch.

    I think Lennox made the right decision to retire in 2003.

    He could've went Holyfield way, who has added 6 more losses after age 38. Or Witherspoon, who has added 9 losses to his record after 38.

    I think there was no reason to fight anymore when you're clearly past your prime.
     
  8. Fergy

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    And I factored in the fact that Lewis won that fight as well. So it's a question really of is fury good enough to do what vitali couldn't, if u get my drift.
     
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  9. Fergy

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    The chances are that the fury of Germany would have probably beat Lewis that day but despite Lewis gassing and out on his feet , he did considerable damage to klitschko face. Would fury faced with those punches from even that Lewis still win. Fury to date as never been that tested and Lewis would still have been landing some bombs on fury. Wlad seemed out of sorts in his fight with fury and never really hit him with the punches that Lewis could throw. So even though fury probably wins I don't say it with certainty. It definitely wouldn't be a Lewis v tyson beat down in fury s favour.
     
  10. Big Ukrainian

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    I think Fury won't get hit as much as Vitali as he plays it very safe.

    It would be boring boxing match from the distance.

    I know Fury isn't an iron-chinned HW, and Fury knows it well, too :)
     
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    Lewis had problems with vitali 's dimensions, fury is even bigger, more mobile, faster, better defense, reflexes...

    Lewis at that time was slow, plodding forward, throwing wide looping shots, bad stamina... His only chance is inside to land some of his devastating uppercuts, but unlike vitali, fury handles himself on the inside..

    I see fury clear ud making it look easy , or late tko if he goes for the kill as lewis gasses
     
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    I don't think fury's chin is tested properly yet, the cunningham kd being more of a disrepect and lack of concentration...
    I think his mental state when in the ring is a warrior's one
     
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  13. Fergy

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    Ah ah I no big guy. But for some reason a few people on here seem to think fury s ali, Joe Louis and Larry holmes all rolled in to one. I give the guy credit for winning the title but as for been a great... A long long way off from proving that. That's if he ever fights again lol
     
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    Would be good to see him back in the ring. Just to see what s what with him.
     
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  15. Big Ukrainian

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    I think that Fury may lose to an aging greats, but only by what's called 'lucky punch'

    I can't see anyone nearing 40 outboxing Fury. Either it's Lewis, or Foreman, or Ali, or Holy, or both Klitschko's

    Fury when in shape lost maybe 3 rounds to Wlad, and I think if he was just sligtly more aggressive, he could've won it 12-0

    But I'm not sure if we will ever see Tyson Fury in shape.