Is Tommy Hearns a top 3 welterweight?

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  1. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    On a head to head basis???
    If not...who would you slide in after the Sugars?
    Napoles?
    Gavilan?
    Walker?
    Armstrong?
    Griffith?
    Rodriguez?
    Walcott?
    Floyd?
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Nope.

    Robinson, Walcott, Armstrong, Leonard, Napoles and Britton come before him.
     
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    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course R.Robinson is the G.O.A.T. Followed by Ray Leonard ( despite what his haters say, he beat the best comp at that weight) and yes than Hearns in that div. Basing it more on his potential at that weight, other then Robinson or Leonard. I see no one else at that weight beating him.
     
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    You can certainly argue that way.
     
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    Only at 154....
     
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    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For legacy at welterweight no, head to head well that's a difficult one, because he's a bit of a nightmare proposition for any of them.
     
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    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Head to Head I would say definitely. Gavilan would be close but just outside those 3
     
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    I wish we'd have gotten to see more of him at 147, but it's a small miracle he made the weight there as long as he did.

    H2H, he could be a nightmare matchup for anyone there on paper, but there's still alot of guesswork because the only great 147 pounder he fought, he faded against and got stopped late (though Cuevas was good). I thought he peaked at 154, and I'm wary of giving the 147 lb version that credit since not having to cut the last 7 pounds made him a better, stronger fighter. As did the experience from losing to Leonard. Maybe he is a top 3-5 guy at 147, or maybe he drops more fights than we expect. I think it's the latter, but it's a tough call.

    At 154, everything came together.
     
  9. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    h2h sure, resume wise, not a chance.
     
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    Eastpaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    H2H he's #1 at 147 if you don't count Robinson
     
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    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's not above SRL for me, even h2h
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Can someone remind me who he beat at welter besides Cuevas?

    Britton beat Leonard, Charley White, Mike O'Dowd, Kid Lewis and Mickey Walker.

    I would even put Packy McFarland ahead of Hearns, in addition to the easy ones like Walcott, both Sugars and Napoles.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Unless we are discussing imaginary fights that didn't actually happen, isn't this the most provable statement possible?
     
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    Spot on!
     
  15. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh the irony. ;)