Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins this super fight?

top champions.

1/ Vitali Klitchko
2/ Mike Tyson
3/ Lennox Lewis
4/ Anthony Joshua
5/ Wlad Klitchko
6/ Evander Holyfield
7/ Riddick Bowe
8/ Muhammed Ali
9/ Larry Holmes
10/ George Foreman

 

Your head-to-head list is a train wreck.

Head-to-Head, an old Lewis (in his last fight) stopped Vitali in Klitschko's prime. Head-to-head, Bowe beat Holyfield two out of three (including stopping him once), including taking Evander's title in Holyfield's prime. Head-to-head, Holyfield stopped Tyson twice.

Anthony Joshua has 18 fights. The toughest guy Joshua's beaten may have been Dominic Breazeale. And you've got him beating six Hall of Famers head-to-head?

Thread over.

 

you have no CLUE what your talking about.Vitali lost on technicalities,and impoved after that. you make a list based on who is more likely to win against everyone. Holyfield beat Bowe when he had steward and Bowe is to inconsistant to put over him unless you want me to add Golota on here who kicked the shyte out of Bowe? You also use PRIME versions why the hell would i use Tyson of the late 90's? I can add ALOT more guys than Joshua to beat them believe me which is why i just used champions!

 

Vitali got his face busted open by punches and was stopped on cuts. That's not a technicality. That's one way you STOP people in the sport of boxing.

That's like saying it's a "technicality" someone got knocked to the floor for a ten count.

No it's not. That's one way you win.

A prime Holyfield was beaten to a pulp, floored and lost clearly against Bowe in their first fight. He was knocked out by Bowe in their third fight. And the only bout Holyfield won against Bowe was by one point ... in a fight where BOWE LANDED 100 MORE PUNCHES than his challenger.

If you can name ANY fight in boxing history where the defending champ landed 100 more punches and lost his title by decision, let me know.

Something tells me if Anthony Joshua outlanded his opponent by 100 punches (not threw more punches but LANDED 100 more punches) ... and Joshua lost his title ... you'd by crying your head off screaming robbery.

And if you're making a head to head list, you should probably rate the guys who actually won head-to-head meetings higher ... unless there are some extenuating circumstances ... like one guy being really old and one guy being young and approaching his prime.

In the case of Lewis-Klitschko, Lewis was one of the oldest reigning heavyweight champs in boxing history at the time, competing in his last bout, and Vitali was in his prime, and Lewis stopped him.

How you put a head-to-head list like that one and list Vitali above Lewis proves your bias.

What's the point of a head-to-head rating if beating someone head-to-head doesn't count in the standings?

Nothing you're saying makes any sense whatsoever.

It's clear you're a big fan of Joshua. I like him, too. He might be great SOMEDAY. He isn't yet. And he may never be. You're just making a fool of yourself right now.

 

Vitali IMPROVED and went on a tear after that...Lewis retired and was also knocked out twice in his career by less punchers.There is no evidance lewis would defeat Vitali had they both had proper time to prepare . I dont even count fights that get stopped in a situation like that if the fighter is CLEARLY winning.

Bowe lost when Holyfield had his best trainer...again ....with that trainer he was the better fighter...UNDERSTAND.

The only thing bias here is you. and thats bc you dont know what you are talking about. the fact you want me use head to head guys who fought who werent at their best tells me you are a casual fan.

 

Vitali didn't go on a tear. He had three fights after that and retired to become a politician.

When that didn't work out, he returned to boxing nearly four years later and he wasn't as good as he was before. You can't watch Vitali in 2002/2003, and watch him in 2010 and say he was better.

He wasn't.

Vitali was at his best the night he fought Lennox Lewis, and an old Lennox Lewis fighting for the last time stopped him.

Deal with it.

Vitali wasn't better than Lewis... Head-to-head, Lewis proved it by stopping him. On Lennox's best night, Lewis would've stopped him even quicker.

And it's not biased to say people should wait before proclaiming Anthony Joshua one of the best ever after 18 fights ... when he's yet to beat anyone of note ...

It's COMMON SENSE. Which you clearly don't have.

Have a nice night.

 

AND Bowe lost because it was the only time in boxing history when the heavyweight champ LANDED A 100 MORE SHOTS than his challenger, and the judges gave it to challenger.

It's called a bad decision. Not a good trainer ... a bad decision.

With his BEST trainer, Evander still got ATE 100 MORE punches than Bowe did ... in the only fight where Bowe didn't practically kill him.

 

Vitali became one of the most dominant era champions try again.Lewis RETIRED. so it wouldnt matter how many fights he had we are comparing each fighter head to head.

you seem to have a thing for Vitali not the the discussion so make your own b.s Vitali thread about that ,this thread isnt even about this.... ,im sure you'll fit right in with the other jokers and make your own false facts up. lol

 

He knocked Bowe down WTf are you talking about had the parachute guy not interfered he was hurting Bowe and winning the fight ...please just go away...and watch the fight.lol

 

I've watched the fight a hundred times. And he didn't knock Bowe down in their second fight. Bowe outlanded him by 100 punches in their return fight.

You better go watch the fight. You don't know what the f*ck you're saying.

 

Vitali wasn't better when he came back. If you have EYES, you can see that.

Just because he beat a handful of Albert Sosnowskis and Manuel Charrs when he returned didn't make him better.

Vitali Klitschko was better before his retirement. That is beyond obvious.

Unless YOU didn't see him fight before he retired the first time.

 

Either way your stupid if you think bowe won that fight. He clearly didnt .

 

Vitali tightened up his defense and was harder to hit...yes he did improve .That's WHY Lewis didnt fight him when he saw what he did to his suppossed opponent Johnson. Thats only one fight 6 months AFTER he fought Lewis.and then lewis retired banking on he wasnt going to look like that. when he became his mandatory opponent for a rematch. you seem to have problems calculating time frames...Vitali also came back in 2008 not 2010.

 

Not stupid enough to make a HEAD-TO-HEAD list and then rank ALL THE GUYS WHO LOST higher than the guys they lost to head-to-head.

Give it up, kid. It's just sad now. You're floundering.

When Anthony Joshua has had 50 or 60 pro fights, we can go back and judge his career.

He could end up being an all-timer, or he could be another Michael Grant or Audley Harrison or Sam Peter or Mac Foster or Gerry Cooney or any number of guys who people expected great things from until they imploded.

And there are a lot more guys who imploded than there are GREATS.

 

Thats because you use PRIME and you do so bc then the list is invalid if you dont you moron. lol

You also use HOW they Won and dominated along with how they would match up against others. This is too complicated for you i know!

By your standards and azz backwards thinking i have to put Golota over holyfield, Leon Spinks over Ali ,Chris Byrd over EVERYONE since he beat Vitali etc...he WON didnt he? You idiot! lol

Go through the thread and EDUCATE yourself by reading my posts maybe you will get critical thinking skills and see WHY i have Joshua ranked where i do.