Heavyweight Top Ten

See not being able to cut off Ali is not a negative for me as no one could until after his layoff when Frazier cornered him.

 

Lol I've been trying to keep up with heavy weight boxing for over 30 years mate, how can I be sane?!!

 

1 - Louis
2 - Ali
3 - Holmes
4 - Johnson
5 - Marciano
6 - Tyson
7 - Lewis
8 - Foreman
9 - Dempsey
10 - Frazier
11 - Holyfield
12 - Liston
13 - Wlad

 

Same here Mr M. I'll probably change it again today lol. I look at it and think.. Naa that's not right, I'll move him up and drop him down a notch.

 

Magic list Goo, i'd just slide in Liston for Klit.

 

Don't really care anymore, but here's my first attempt from 10 years ago...

 

I'll play.Something like.
1.Ali
2.Johnson
3.Dempsey
4.Louis
5.Holmes
6. Liston
7.Lewis
8.Foreman
9.Holyfield
10.Tyson

 

1# Ali
2# Louis
3# Holmes
4# Foreman
5# Lewis
6# Frazier
7# Holyfield
8# Tyson
9# Liston
10# Riddick Bowe
11# Vitali Klitschko
12# Wladimir Klitschko
13# Marciano
14# Norton
15# Witherspoon, Moorer, Charles, Walcott

 

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holmes
4. Foreman
5. Lewis
6. W Klitsch
7. Holyfield
8. Marciano
9. Johnson
10. Liston
11. Frazier
12. Tyson
13. V Klitsch

 

Wilder @ 10?.....you can't be serious surely?

 

Time will tell.
It always does.
He's 38-0.
If he gets to 50 and takes a Joshua/Fury or whoever else on the way, then 10 may look a little low.?

 

People want to see the best fight the best in titles Johnson did not give us that.

Who cares if someone beat someone else at age 19 or 20, or when they were .500 or below, which are Johnson's wins over Langford, McVey, and Jeannette. There was demand for these fights, over 30k while Johnson was the champion. In fact, Johnson himself backed out of a signed deal to fight Langford for 30k in 1909 in the UK? Where you aware of that?
So you see there was demand for these fights regardless of past outcomes. The press is full of 30k 50k and 100K offers to lure Johnson to fight one of the big three. We never saw it.

If Jeannette, Mcvey or Langford were not the top 3 challengers from 1909-1914, can you tell me who was better? A champion is defined by who he beats as champion.

It is refreshing to talk about Johnson to someone who listens!

Regarding Jeffries, Sharkey was his prime. No debates there. And Jeffries beat him with an injured shoudler.

Fitz at age 36 was also in his prime. Just look at who Fitz waxed after losing to Jeffries in 1899. Fitz was a great older fighter, and his style did not require fancy footwork. The guy was lethal until 1904, 5 years after Jeffries KO'd him and if you look at his record, Jeffries was the only man to beat Fitz from 2-2-1890 TO 7-23-1904...a 14 year run for Fitz, of winning** The DQ with Sharkey is debatable as Fitz was winning before the alleged foul.

Corbett was in the shape of his life, and 33 for Jeffries. Based on his performance, which his own people say was his best ring effort, he was in his prime too. He was not in his prime for the second match though.

-M

 

He's barely inside the scrub-land perimeter