GBP President Gomez: GGG must not fight BJS in June or it will jeopardize the Canelo fight!

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  1. Gannicus

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    They don't want Golovkin carrying more clout and demanding more. They'd also run to a Chavez rematch if it's good. Golovkin is no ones waterboy.
     
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  2. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The translation of Gomez's remarks are quite simple:

    If you fight Saunders in June we won't offer you the September fight for no good reason whatsoever.

    There's no way to defend that.

    Also it shows that the $15 million "offer" obviously was not a final contract for a fight if:
    - Gomez says he has the power to stop it regardless.
    - ODLH says that he withholds the right to make the Chavez Jr rematch instead.
     
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  3. Nay_Sayer

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    Ethically reprehensible behavior?

    LMAO

    It's called business. Team Triple Duck have no one but themselves to blame for their current predicament. Should have just accepted the $15 mil then proceeded to kick Alvarez' ass..
     
  4. Staminakills

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    The only reason canelo is still a fight ggg would accept is 100% due to the fact ggg needs 3, maybe even 4 fights to eclipse hops defense record. The bjs fight is more important than the beltless canelo $$$ fight. Ggg has been working towards those 2 goals his entire career and finally he's close so all our "fans" that keep puking the move to 168,the worst division in boxing are either too dumb to comprehend the things they read and hear or are strictly trolls that try to only start ONLINE arguments, not debating just child level arguing.

    Ggg was ONLY willing to make a one off at 68 with a real ppv fighter because he knew he had unfinished business @60 that he was going back to so he could complete his only true goals. He has bjs, cej, Charlo, and I think one other to break hops record. Unbelievably great **** right there
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's hard for me to criticize Gomez, because I don't know how real the Golovkin Saunders rumors are. He must have been prompted by hearing that Golovkin vs Saunders is being discussed for June, to make those statements. Where I'm coming from is I don't even want to hear about Triple G thinking about fighting Saunders in June. I don't know how they would be considering something like that when they're getting ready to fight Jacobs. It just doesn't make any sene to me. Triple G's team should be completely focused on fighting Jacobs at this point, not considering fighting Saunders in June lol.

    The more than 3 months promotion time I think is an exaggeration. If Golovkin signs to fight Saunders for June 10th, then Canelo vs Golovkin is not going to get signed probably until the end of June at the earliest, and that's assuming negoations go smoothly which is no guarantee based on what we've seen thus far. That gives you about 2 months promotion time max. I tend to agree with you that I don't like the statement Gomez made trying to tell Golovkin what to do. And I know you didn’t like my response to it, acting like he was in the right for telling Golovkin what to do, but really it was just hyperbole like “really, seriously” type of thing. The reason why I said that was because of all the disrespect Golovkin has showed Canelo. “Give me my belt”, getting Canelo stripped, saying Canelo is nothing compared to Floyd, not willing to drain himself for Canelo but would for Floyd. I just think Golovkin needs to focus on Jacobs then prepare for Canelo. It’s only about a month of waiting, it’s not that long.

    I just want to see Canelo vs Golovkin in September, and I don’t want to see any more BS get in the way of that. I don’t think it’s right for Gomez to tell Golovkin what to do, but at the same time I don’t think Golovkin shouldn’t be considering fighting Saunders in June because I think it’s going to derail the fight we want in September.
     
  6. KiwiMan

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    That $15 million offer was clearly just a financial agreement, accepting it wouldn't change a thing. Gomez also said that they are very close to having the financial agreement sorted anyway.

    Gomez and ODLH clearly saying that they can back out of the September fight for various reasons prove this. If you know anything about contract law you will realize that you can't say things like that if the $15 million offer was the main contract for Sept. this year.
     
  7. KiwiMan

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    The Golovkin-Saunders rumours have been denied by K2 btw on that very basis, i.e. they're not looking past Jacobs at the moment. I personally have my doubts on whether it happens, but I guess we'll see.

    For GGG's perspective, he's tried so hard many times to get Saunders into the ring. Canelo has tried too, BJS is just impossible to deal with. So in my view if either of them get him into the ring and take his belt it's good for boxing, and would build up Canelo-GGG even more.

    There could easily be 3 whole months of promotion time, the details could be agreed in advance of the Saunders fight and announced straight after. Note that is just what Canelo fans were telling K2 to do before fighting Jacobs, using Ward-Kovalev as the template.

    I criticized GGG when he was bad-mouthing Canelo and begging for a Floyd fight too.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    And HERE is the real reason Canelo wants to stall GGG from fighting Saunders. Because he is going to lose his unwarranted crack at Saunders and GGG will have all the belts :D Canelo should FIGHT KHURTSIDZE and the winner is the mandatory :) But of course Canelo has feet colder than a ducks at the thought of fighting Tyson's Mini-me. :tiburon:

    :risas3::risas3::risas3: So much fail in one post.

    I have a better idea. :angel2:

    Golovkin fights Saunders in a big bucks fight in Khazakstan, and becomes Unified Champion while Canelo does his nails with Chavez. Then Canelo can exercise his mandatory status and fight GGG for ALLLLLLL the belts :D The timing is perfect. Golovkin should 100% mug Saunders' belt out from under Canelo's nose. :bandit: If Chavez beats the paste out of Pollo I will LMAO even more.

    :dancer2:
     
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  9. shadow111

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    I couldn't disagree more. Canelo is the Lineal Middleweight Champ, and I'm sorry but that's more important than the WBO Title. Canelo is a MUCH MUCH bigger fight for Golovkin and I'm frustrated that not only is he not showing Canelo any respect, but he doens't seem to be showing any desire to want to fight Canelo. Fighting Canelo is not just a $$$ fight, it's a legacy fight. Canelo is a proven Superstar who is a title holder at 154, and is the Lineal Middleweight Champ. I don't care what anyone says, Lineal Champions are supposed to mean something and being handed that WBC Title was complete BS. Canelo is the True WBC Champion because he beat Cotto period. He's the Lineal Champ and whether he fights Saunders or not, he's not going to be recognized as Unified Champ until he beats Canelo. He's going to pay dealy for the disrespect he's shown Canelo when he steps into the ring with Canelo. If he wants to play around with Saunders in June, then go ahead have some fun but the way he's going about it, he's get seriously hurt when he steps in the ring vs Canelo.

    And just so you know, I'm not defending Gomez at all. I'm sick and tired of hearing Canelo get criticized for what Oscar says or what Gomez says !! These are his promotors, Are we criticizing Manny Pacquiao for being too SCARED to fight Amir Khan because his promotor Bob Arum said he's not fighting Khan? Have we lost any respect for Pacquiao? Hell no, but because Gomez says that Golovkin shouldn't fight Saunders in June all of a sudden that reflects badly on Canelo? I call BS ! Whatever Gomez says, he's not Canelo, so stop trying to act like Canelo is just some $$$ fight for Golovkin that means nothing. He's the Lineal Champ, he's the biggest fight Golovkin's ever had by far and it should MEAN MORE to Golovkin and his fans to make the Canelo fight !


    I agree about him moving up to 168 is riduclous, I agree with you there. But then you say he has BJS, CEJ and Charlo and one other to break Hops Record! But you don't even mention Canelo the Lineal Middleweight Champ. How's it gonna look breaking B Hops record without ever being the Lineal Champ. Would be a complete embarrassment to boxing if he did that without fighting Canelo IMHO.
     
  10. BCS8

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    No they're not.

    They could keep Golovkin standing around and staring at his shoes for the next three years with emptry promises.

    If Golovkin unifies 160 then HE is in the driving seat.

    Where is Alva ... El Pollo going to go? Is he going to keep eating those delicious water smoothies and try to make 154 when he clearly is dying to make the weight? Is he going to 168 to fight the big boys? Canelo / Ramirez? Sound good? :lol: GGG will have the 160 crown and Canelo will have to fight him or look like El Pollo Rojo forever :bunny:
     
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  11. BCS8

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    Great thread Kiwiman :)
     
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  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean you're basically giving Triple G every excuse to not have to face Canelo. You're basically saying "screw Canelo, Triple G don't need him". And to that I say "Yes you do" lol. Triple G needs Canelo trust me, he could have all the titles but it won't mean jack if he's not Lineal.

    When Max Kellerman asks him about the Canelo fight he's either gonna say he wants the fight or he don't. And if he don't, he's gonna be seen as a coward.

    Then in May Canelo when asked will say Bring me Triple G I will fight him now we Mexicans don’t f**c around Viva La Mexico and Canelo will be seen as the True MW Champ and Golovkin will just be a guy with paper titles who were handed to him because he was too scared to fight Canelo.
     
  13. KiwiMan

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    Not sure, it's close IMO, especially since some organizations may strip Canelo from lineality if GGG beat Saunders and Canelo fought a Chavez Jr rematch (ESPN said that they might - Dan Rafael), but Golovkin definitely wants the Canelo fight more because of $$$$. Also, Canelo is a p4p talent and BJS is elite but not top 10 p4p.

    I can agree with that part, although to be fair GGG gets plenty of stick b/c of Sanchez' big mouth too; Sanchez sometimes says stuff which is clearly not 100% factual. However, if Canelo were to decline a GGG fight on the reason given by Gomez then he would deserve criticism too.
     
  14. shadow111

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    It was meant to be humorous. It’s a complete joke all this talk of fighting Saunders. Fight Saunders in June Triple G at you’re own peril. It only gonna make life that much easier for Canelo and that much harder for you.

    And need I remind you it’s impossible to unify a division without being Lineal Champion ! I mean It would make Golovkin a laughingstock of boxing. I almost want to see it happen just so I can laugh so hard lol. The Non-Lineal Unified MW Champion Gennady Triple Duck Golovkin lmao . . .
     
  15. BCS8

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    He actually doesn't. Fishnets is going to keep GGG hanging around until he's 100 before risking Canelo against him. Best thing for Golovkin to do is to pretend Canelo doesn't exist and to continue his career without him. If the fight happens, it happens.

    Nobody cares about the lineal champion of a weightclass that never fought at that weight and never won the belt at that weight. It's irrelevant. It's like being the world champion at eating lightbulbs, when compared to the Unified Champion.

    Are you high? Because you sound like it. :zlumi:

    All Canelo will have to do to fight Golovkin is to enforce his MANDATORY status to one of the belts that GGG holds :D Very simple. There will be no escape for GGG. Unless, of course, Canelo actually doesn't want to fight him :)
     
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