Who's technically better Marciano or Dempsey?

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've seen talk about one being better than the other technically in other threads across this forum. So I thought I'd ask the question here and see what results come up.
     
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    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think that Dempsey was better technically. He had much more movement. Marciano's one dimensional straight in style could make him vulnerable against the likes of Liston and Foreman. Dempsey's shark like circling and in and out style was technically better.
     
  3. MUFA$A

    MUFA$A FEAR * THE * TANK Full Member

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    Definitely Jack Dempsey . He can do lot more different things in the ring . Rocky as Great as he was , still very much predictable .
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Both fought with styles that accentuated their physical assets and diminished their vulnerabilities. Had Marciano tried to fight with the techniques of Dempsey we may never have heard of him.
     
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    Dempsey by a cat's pube.

    Not an awful lot in it.
     
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  6. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Marciano's awkward style of fighting made him unpredictable. At least that what his opponents have said...he wasn't as easy to hit as they thought he would be because of the way he fought...
     
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  7. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not in any way close. Dempsey the far greater technical fighter.
    His ability to slip, duck and bob and weave avoiding many consecutive blows from such a sharpshooter as Tunney is testament and this was an older Dempsey. Tunney wrote he had great difficulty hitting Dempsey on the chin. Jack always had that great head and upper body movement. Offensively Dempsey was far quicker and the better combination puncher. Fleischer put it well and he watched both men at their best "you can only compare Marciano to Dempsey as a puncher".
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I don't know. Marciano had some kids too.
     
  9. Fergy

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    Each had there own style, strength s and weakness in the ring. It worked for them. If either had tried to be a stylist it wouldn't have worked, but in terms of technical style best I would say dempsey. Certain things he did in the ring, movement, punching positions and defence I would put him above rock. But marciano had a different skill set that worked for him to remain undefeated so it s not a negative towards either guy. There both ATG s.
     
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    Let's put it like this: Dempsey was the better technical fighter and he knew the subtle skills of boxing very well. Dempsey's book is fascinating reading. However, he didn't always employ his skills and often resorted to slugging away.

    Marciano was much less of a technician but he developed a unique style and he used that style to great effect.

    Make of that what you will.
     
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    For me the pick is definitely Dempsey.
     
  12. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    You are all bursting RockJims bubble!. LOL.
     
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    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Is this even debatable? Clearly Dempsey was the far more technically refined fighter. I'll explain it simply. It's not even close. Marciano is a cheap rip off of Dempsey but made up for it with his power, stamina, and chin.
    Dempsey had absolutely zero telegraphing going on when he punched. Probably the best out of any fighter that ever lived. Marciano on the other hand was on the opposite end of the spectrum but made up for it with other characteristics.

    This is a sad sight to even have to answer a question like this. No wonder Dempsey is underrated on here when questions like "who is better technically?" are being asked.

    Anybody who has Marciano in their top 10 but not Dempsey doesn't know **** about boxing. Simple as that. Dempsey was the better fighter in every single way. There isn't one thing Marciano does better aside from stamina. Dempsey even hits harder than Marciano.

    Would Dempsey be a threat at heavyweight today? You can bet your ****ing ass he would. Dempsey hits harder than any of those powder puff punchers running around today. Anthony Joshua doesn't got **** on Dempsey's power. Jack was practically a methodical scientist when it came to developing punching power. He wasn't born with it, he put together what he had learned over the course of his early life. Not many know that Dempsey had worked with a lot of trainers all over the West and it wasn't until 1918 that Dempsey had everything together and was ready to tear into Willard.
     
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    Both made their own particular style their own. Was it technical, well yes, was it effective? Absolutely. For both of them.

    Both knew what to do to suit the situation and were capable of making the right decision for them selves instinctively.

    Dempsey could circle and use the ring more but it was not conventional at all because he would pounce and shorten that distance when the opening presented itself. His inside game was clever and all the more effective in that his short arm punches were so hard. If there was a comparable fighter to measure this against you could say if this was as technically good as the next man. His smothering and ability to land whilst simultaneously preventing the other guy from landing was excellent too.

    Marciano had subtle tricks he used to bring the opponent closer to him and he always knew where the other mans chin was. If you don't have range you need ways to bring the man closer and Rocky was an expert at this. Adjusting his footing, leaning one way or lowering himself as he came in fooled the other guy into anticipating distance. Even missing the target somehow helped him in that the momentum smothered the space required for the other guy to capitalise. His feints fooled better fighters and he had an instinct to deliver into an opening.
     
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    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Arm punches? Dempsey put his entire body weight behind every punch.
     
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