Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins this super fight?

735 ****en posts lmao. Discounting the logical boxing fans Galv, Bailey and his alts James and who ever else...about 640 of them were garbage posts.

 

I bet you voted for AJ

 

try answering it first time first.

thx.

get a move on. 50 pages in and you've not given one point.

 

And in Ali's 20th fight he he stopped ATG and one of the most feared and hardest hitting heavyweights of all time Sonny Liston.

 

Joshua would be like a blend of Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis.

 

Well hell, I guess Shaq O neal would have been the greatest heavyweight of all time. It aint about size alone, there were attempts of huge guys to box ever since the early 1900's result? they got ko'ed. Damn Gerry Cooney was 6'7 230, where is he at on the alltime great list? Micheal Grant 6'7, YOU'LL FIND BOTH OF THEM ON AISLE 7 WITH THE TOMATO CANS

 

Does that remove what happened in his fight previously? In Joshuas 19th fight hes going to be facing an ATG

 

no, andre the giant would have khtfo1

 

Does no-one from the Ali section want to dispute this summary of the task facing 'The Greatest'?

Ali/Joshua won't look like Rigondeux/Donaire or Jones Jr/Ruiz so what would Ali beating Joshua play out like if not "having AJ run into something" like explained above?

The only argument which hasn't been reasonably refuted by GALVATRON so far is how does Joshua not gas out before he can finish Ali, given the latter's durability?

 

So, let me get this straight, the idiot claims Joshua would have nothing to worry about from Ali's punches, despite the fact that he was out on his feet for 10 seconds against the only above average punch he's been hit with and the fact that Ali KOd a proven iron chinned Big George. And you call this a reasonable argument.

He claims he'd easily cut the ring off on Ali, who had the best footwork and by far the best footspeed in the history of the division, despite the fact that he's never been in there with anyone with above average footspeed and looked to have average footwork against his limited opposition so far. And you call this reasonable argument.

He claims Joshua would easily find the target against Ali, who had the best head and upperbody movement in the history of the division, despite the fact that Joshua has never been in there with anyone with above average head movement and even fat, sloppy Dillian Whyte was able to make him miss from time to time. And you call this reasonable argument.

He claims Ali had weak defence and struggled against pressure, based on his fights with Smokin' Joe Fraizer, one of the best pressure fighters, one of the most explosive offensive machines in the HW history with easily the best lead left hook, and goes on to claim Joshua is great at countering over the jab based on his fight with part time boxer Gary cornish. And you call this reasonable argument.

In the Rocky Marciano/David Price thread, the same moron claimed that Marciano coudln't possibly touch Price because of the 9 inches height difference, despite the fact that we've seen fighters overcome similar height disatvantages in the past. How reasonable do you think that argument was?

Feel free to pick whoever you want in this fantasy match up, but exactly how much more tiime do you expect people to waste with this complete spastic?

 

Joshua will dictate the fight go at the pace HE wants to therefor how will he punch himself out?Hes not a wasting puncher that wastes punches and is very selective. If theres any evidence of tiring its from Ali have you seen him winded half way through fights before? I have, he got away with it bc of staying out of reach getting second winds ( something not applicable here).More or not HARD punches take alot out of you are you sure its Joshuas gas tank that will be worrying here let alone a LONG fight ?


Fools like the anotolian whatever his name is CANT function without hearsay or popularity or agreeing with OTHERS ,posters LIKE this cant put together ANY intelligence on their own so they resort to just B.s like everyone else does,I think you can CLEARLY see i know what im talking about,these guys would be dead in the water if there was no actual sports writers or referances they could look up. Ironically sports writers /historians are fools themselves for the most part they are so called EXPERTS like most on here i guess but ......

One of the things that makes experts so convincing is that they exude confidence. They can talk calmly and knowledgeably about a subject, make reference to relevant facts and build a compelling logic for their case. A good expert is always impressive, but still usually WRONG.

So you have to ask yourself do you want to follow nonsense and clearly illogical points when we have ACTUAL video to look at or do we go by what idiots tell us? I know theres plenty here so it shows how gullible boxing fans actually are and its not soley picking Ali to win ...its the constant tearing down of a better fighter and protecting a MYTH just BECAUSE ... that shows they are merley fanboys with brain dead points that make no sense.

Its not even a question who knows about boxing and who doesnt on here ...OBVIOUSLY its not them!


I will add this AGAIN..maybe you missed this regarding what ACTUAL footwork consists of and how its used in this match up..

Lateral movement is moving on either side right or left while being off center line.Ali moved in circles but mostly in center line of his opponent. Don't believe me ? why not watch an ENTIRE fight...how about Chuvalo one then come back and tell me how many overall punches that the much smaller /slower Chuvalo landed?

Having effective footwork means that you can defend yourself at all times whilst remaining attacking mode Without holding the stance correctly with also proper head protection at the right time, limits ability to hit and not be hit and is inferior. Footwork is the technique of controlling the opponent inside a boxing ring.

when pressured Ali cannot use lateral movements effectively ( he didnt actually uise lateral movements really )this has already been showed by MUCH smaller slower Frazier and did so with simply worrying Ali of duck and slipping jabs while returning left hooks to keep him going one direction and that was mainly BACKWARD. LONG circling movements is not lateral movement it is simply circling out of distance and certainly isn't effective movement if one can stop it.


Joshua has better concepts how to nutralize ring cutting WAY more than Ali has to avoid it. His shots land right on target almost always and Whilst possessing a killer punch is one thing, the ability to bring that kind of precision to the ring pays for itself, and certainly being able to corner or stop another opponent who relies on the footwork to get distance is a nightmare for THAT fighter.

 

Despite your own fair (sometimes a touch hyperbolic) counterpoints above I do find your favourite posters arguments reasonable, yes. Isn't it possible that he just has greater knowledge/insight/expertise/whatever on this subject and sees things your average boxing fan doesn't?

 

You do know this quote will be directed back at you, right?

 

You can't see what's not there. His stupidity and ignorance was clear in this thread, It became crystal clear with his Marciano\Price comment.

 

Serious question A. Why? Why, why, why, why, why...??? Lol...