What was tyson s best post jail performance?

Bruno 2 was dreadful, he looked uncoordinated and wild. I cringed when i saw him trying to move his head and jab bruno. Bruno was frozen so mike could get off a lot of power shots but he really didnt look like he had very good balance and coordination like he used to. I liked his performance in the golota and norris fights for the most part. Francis was a punching bag and savarese was out too fast to make an assessment. He looked very very good technically and physically in the holyfield rematch but he was gunshy, worried about losing and just mentally not in the right place to do what was necessary to win the fight.
Tyson's biggest bistake IMO was not getting a real boxing trainer like richie giachetti or tommy brooks when he got out of prison because at that point he still had most of his handspeed and some of his footspeed and reflexes. The improvements he made under giachetti and brooks were very visible.

 

Tyson, after prison just did not mentally react well to getting hit. It disrupted his rythm and execution of his gameplan more than it should have. To me that said he didnt enjoy fighting anymore and/or hadnt sparred enough and wasnt accustomed to being hit. At age 30 plus most fighters, especially with his kind of style will start getting hit more.
Remember the botha fight, watch it again closely. Tyson did not physically look THAT slow at first, and tyson himself said he wasnt worried because he was in good shape. So why did he look so bad? Botha's punches as well as smart movement just disrupted his rythm and bothered him so such that he couldnt get anything done until that big right hand in the 5th.

 

Bruno 2 was infact not good. Go as far too say if bruno went in with even some belief he could have maybe even won it. Was a good finish tbf...so people mostly forgot about it. For me his best performance even though it was a losing performance was holyfield one. He looked better in the second one...but ended before it really got started.

The thing is looking back now holyfield should have probably been favourite for that first fight. Tysons second career was smoke and mirrors really when you go through it. Guys that didnt mind folding without too much trouble guys that werent good...anyone else caused him problems.

 

Nonsense. He destroyed Bruno. When Bruno wasn't swinging at thin air he was holding on for his life. Tyson did very little wrong and made such an impression that people thought Holyfield was going to die when they fought.

 

So you're saying mike tyson looked well coordinated, technically sound and looked like he had his balance to you? Because to me i could point out to you the sequences in the second bruno fight that showed he was still very rusty.
You do realize that mike tyson said he was scared before the fight because he knew that he wasnt ready but that bruno being scared gave him a mental boost, and that if bruno had fought him with determination that he doesnt think he would have won?
Dont get me wrong still thought he would beat evander but not becuse he looked very good but because holyfield was not very convincing at that time.
The only thing the second bruno fight did was show tyson still had his power, ferocity and 85% of his handspeed but that he was a mess technically.

 

Yeah , thats what im saying to you. Mike came out gunning and Bruno couldn't keep him off his chest. He almost had him out in the first round and would have had Bruno not been stuck to him like a squid.
It was a blow out.

 

Look at the 2nd bruno fight again. At the parts where tyson is on the outside trying to jab bruno and use his headfeints. Most of the fight they were wrestling or tyson was unloading massive power shots at bruno but in the parts where the fight actually "calms down" and its not a slugfest you can see tyson trying some of the things he used to like jabbing his way in and moving his head side to side and it looks like tyson was tryng to imitate himself except he was off balance and his head movements where exaggerated and not engrained in his muscle memory. actual athletes, ex athletes or trainers know what im talking about.
Mike did a good job of hiding it by being extra ferocious.

best example 7:17 to 7:25

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If you still dont get it you dont know enough about the technical aspect of boxing.
I think tyson looked fierce and fought hard in this fight and the ending certainly was explosive but i personally wouldnt call that a good tyson performance.

 

7:17 to 7:25 perfect example.

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if you still dont get it, then im sorry but you just dont know enough about the technical aspect of boxing.

 

Im not comparing him to to the much better 80s version.

You simply said it was a dreadful performance which it clearly was not. Bruno could barely touch him as he moved in and Mike connected with the majority of punches he threw.
Saying he was 'uncoordinated and wild' leads me to believe you don't understand the sport.

 

Well i said it was dreadful, meaning it was dreadful to watch and if you had read my last post i gave an example of what i meant by uncoordinated and wild. When i say someone gave a good boxing performance i mean he got the best out of his physical attributes. 2000 tyson was slower than 1996 tyson but i think he was more technically sound. the only thing tyson proved in the bruno fight was that he still had power and speed

 

7:20 you can literally see tyson not having the coordination in his legs to get him closer to bruno after the jab!
Remember how i said he looked like he was trying to imitate the things he used to do but that he was too uncoordinated to pull it off? thats what i meant. I box so i know what im looking at.

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Look , you seem like you are an idiot ok? If you want to judge the whole fight off a 5 second snippet then go ahead. I won't be entertaining this nonsense any longer

 

Im not judging the fight off a 5 second snippet. im giving you an example of how you could tell he was badly rusty. and that news article you posted? well unless it was written by a boxer or a respected boxing trainer it doesnt mean anything. Because only a jim lampley type or someone who hasnt actually boxed and acquired any boxing skills in real life would say that Tyson didnt show bigtime rust even in the bruno 2 fight despite his opponent acting like a punching bag.
Do you think if you asked Tyson if that was a good performance he would say yes? Because Tyson himself said that if Bruno had came to win that there was no way Mike would have beaten him, thats how rusty he was.
You can blow out your opponent and still look bad.
With a style like tyson's most of his wins are going to come in that fashion anyway.