Stop talking about PED's there is no point

high school kids have been using for decades. even non athletes use.

 

That's why I appreciate/love Manny Pacquiao - one of few, clean, ATG legends of the sport.

 

They should just contract on a fight to fight basis what they are willing to use.

 

I'm not sure you can make that assertion without evidence. Whilst I think you could make the argument for more fighters being on than are being caught, to say everyone is on something is too simplistic.

Not to mention not all PEDs are created equal, meldonium is clearly less effective than ostarine, ostarined is less effective that testerone etc. So even if they were all on it, some may be juicing to a larger scale than others.

 

Lool sure he's always been clean. Just like Juan Manuel Marquez and Floyd too right?

 

It doesn't matter. It will become more and more pervasive because of this attitude.

 

It's a weird dance that goes around.
*I see people bury guys who use PED's while simultaneously wishing boxing were like the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Then, they get offended when you mention that those guys were probably juiced up because the substances were legal in boxing at that time. Nevermind that it'd have made no sense for everyone to avoid legal substances that worked on ethical grounds because fans decades later would be offended.

*Many people (though not all) seem to switch their stance on PED's depending entirely on who gets busted. They get on their high horse when it's convenient and don't apply consistent standards.

As for my part, I'm realistic- I've been watching for a little over 20 years, and I doubt I've seen many national or world level cards with legitimately clean fighters (whether they got busted or not). I'm sure I've rooted for fighters who were juicing but never got caught, because I was rooting for guys who ultimately did get busted.

It's in style to demonize these guys, but it's been the cost of doing business in a dirty industry. I'm supposed to believe that bribery happens, rigging matches happens, crooked judging and reffing happens, but that every fighter is clean except for the few that test positive? C'mon, man. There's too much at stake at anything beyond the weekend warrior level.

 

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You quoted me but I didn't say what you said in the quote? That's quite ******ed.

Also, your completely wrong, the reason PEDs are being used more is simply due to the fact you cannot be the best in the world at something without them, you need good genes, but without PEDs there's only so much a human body can do.
The reason people want to be the best in the world? Money.

For these athletes to earn big money, PEDs are not optional, they are necessity.

 

Stop talking about PEDS!

Creates PED thread.

 

That is so wrong. You can be the best in the World without PED's. But in order to do that reliably, no one else can be on PED's. Strict rules should be made in all sports for PED's and other types of cheating. The next step to this is going to be people cutting off their limbs and using biomechanical enhancements to be better at certain skills. We should just stop it here before the problem spirals out of control. There is real ethical, humanitarian and philosophical reasons why people shouldn't use PED's.

 

Well of course people can be the best in the world if no on uses PEDs, that much is obvious for a simpleton.

The point being PEDs are rife, you can get them anywhere, your always going to have people using them, and your always going to have bribes.

all ofbthe top athletes are on them, mo farah is jus being found out now. Lance Armstrong of course and that epidemic.

In years to come it will be obvious people like AJ and Usain Bolt where on PEDs.

Common sense tells you they are, Usain is faster than all of the other PED users, PEDs make such a drastic increase in performance this tells you he must be on them. Why isn't he caught you ask? Money. Usain bolt IS the olympics.

Same wth AJ. Why isn't he caught? He's the biggest draw in the boxing world, this is fact.