Why do people think Wladimir Klitschko ducked Sanders, Purrity rematch? It was the other way round.

You're a good man. Myself, I get annoyed after a certain point and prime the flamer.

Yeah, you're right, some folks have serious issues and they ought to be looked after. On the other hand when their set of issues overlaps with my chillin' time on the Venn diagram of my life, it grates my gears.

I could defend Sturm's career if you like I'd say that he did very well for himself while dodging every credible threat with the dexterity of an acrobat. He took (admittedly decent) boxing skills and spun them into a long resume!

 

LOL, yes Dino can " tell us ".

What is the over and under on Dino replies in this thread?

 

excellent reply!
I've always been a 'good man' waiting to blossom

but I understand your short fuse on your down time

some people just need to 'fit into their skin' and learn to deal with their past. it's a curse when it leaks into your online persona - nobody needs that

 

Is the reason why some of you think that Sanders didn't want the rematch because he thinks that he might've lost the rematch to Wlad? I don't get why Sanders wouldn't want to make more money in a rematch. From what I remember there was no rematch clause because Sanders wasn't supposed to be that much of a test. I don't remember Wlad wanting an immediate rematch either.

 

Also guys - while we all take a leak on that idiot Dino - let's not forget to pay our respect to Corrie Sanders who died a horribly brutal death in September of 2012. RIP.

 

Yep Sanders died a hero trying to protect someone else.

 

Just read the thread Blizz.

Sanders inherited a mandatory defence complicated by Don King shennanigans. He did want to make a big bucks match but Wlad wasn't the mando. Eventually he got his money in the Vitali fight while Wlad got a crack at winning his belt back. After the Vitali fight Sanders was out of shape and messed up. I've no doubt that Wlad would have beaten the remains of Sanders at that time, and I guess maybe he didn't see the point either. Remember, Sanders fought Varakin after Vits and retired for 2 1/2 years.

If Corrie had kept himself in better condition he might still have had a half a dozen good fights left in him, but unfortunately he never really cared for boxing that much and at age 39 he was done.

 

Corrie Sanders will be allowed one voluntary defence of the WBO heavyweight title he so easily wrenched from Wladimir Klitschko’s grasp before he is contractually obligated to fight the 1996 Olympic champion once again.

Klitschko, who will travel to the US tomorrow with brother Vitali, wants immediate revenge, but cooler heads at the Hamburg headquarters of Universum Box Promotions are considering an interim fight against the likes a Fres Oquendo, John Ruiz or - surprisingly – the heavy-handed David Tua.

[url]http://www.secondsout.com/world-boxing-news/world-boxing-news/klitschkos-rematch-clause[/url]

Sanders is obligated to give the giant Ukrainian a rematch, and the whispers are that the return will take place before the end of the year(December). In the meantime, Klitschko will face an as yet unconfirmed opponent in Germany on August 30 and Sanders, too, is looking forward to an interim fight.

Gauntlet of articles in which Sanders pursued super fights with Chris Byrd, Roy Jones Jr, Lennox Lewis, and even Botha. But WBO orders Sanders vs Brewster.

[url]http://www.geocities.ws/corriesanders/2003.html[/url]


To state that defeated WBO heavyweight title-holder Wladimir Klitschko has become obsessed with avenging his two round defeat Corrie Sanders would be an extreme understatement.

Since that career-endangering defeat in March, Klitschko has grown obsessed with the rematch above and beyond of the fixations all top athletes feels after they plummet from lofty standings. Klitschko has made it his mission in life to defeat the South African.

But Wladimir has done more than buy a few irons and putters to prepare for the expected December return. He has hired respected trainer Freddie Roach to work alongside his long-time coach Fritz Sdunek. The American is already working with big brother Vitali and now Wladimir, too, will employ Roach

[url]http://www.secondsout.com/world-boxing-news/world-boxing-news/wladimir-klitschko-obsessed-and-dangerous[/url]


I really hope my next fight is the rematch with Sanders," Wladimir Klitschko said. "I know I am ready for him now.

[url]http://www.boxing247.com/news/klitschko3108.php[/url]

In an unusual move, the WBO has reportedly ordered a mandatory title defense for newly crowned heavweight champ Corrie Sanders. Sanders (37-2, 27 KOs) must fight the first available contender in the heavyweight division.

This is surprising as WBO champs can sometimes go years without defending against #1 contenders and almost never are mandatory bouts ordered.

With a voluntary defense apparently out of the picture, a unification with IBF champ Chris Byrd or an all-South African matchup against with Frans Botha are presumably gone, at least for now.

WBO #1 David Tua unavailable (already engaged in a fight with Hasim Rahman) it looks like either #2 Lamont Brewster or ex-champ Wladimir Klitschko (the new #3 in the March rankings) will get the next shot at Sanders.

That leaves number two-rated Lamon Brewster, as the next available challenger to face Sanders. The same boxer who was supposed to face Wladimir on March 8th, but decided to back-out of the negotiations. Should he decide to pass on this fight, that will give Wladimir the chance to face Sanders in a rematch, as Wladimir holds the third spot in the ratings. "I would be very happy should the situation turn this way," said Wladimir when we spoke with him.

[url]http://www.geocities.ws/corriesanders/2003.html[/url]


World Boxing Organisation heavyweight title-holder Corrie Sanders will face mandated challenger Lamon Brewster within the next sixty days, following the South African’s decision to drop his legal action against the WBO.

[url]http://www.secondsout.com/usa-boxing-news/usa-boxing-news/hails-end-of-sanders-lawsuit[/url]

Since bombing out Wladimir Klitschko five months ago, Sanders has been reported to be gearing up for a return with the German-based Ukrainian, going to defend against Chris Byrd, not interested in meeting Lamon Brewster because it wasn't a fight that proved interesting to the networks, was going to face David Tua instead, and then agreed - after starting a law suit against the WBO - to defend after all against Brewster.

Please forgive the somewhat confused and rather sceptical South African fight community, then, when they hear of the decision to meet Jones Jr. That came as purse bids for the Sanders-Brewster bout were sealed last Friday. Now the WBO have threatened that if he doesn't go through with that bout, he will be stripped of their title. And the German promoters who have been awarded the WBO defence may not take it all lying down.

[url]http://www.secondsout.com/world-boxing-news/world-boxing-news/south-african-round-up-will-sanders-fight-jones-jr[/url]


Sanders gave up the WBO strap in favour of accepting a No.2 rating from the more respected WBC.

Wladimir Klitschko appears to have given up on gaining revenge on Corrie Sanders and has targeted a fight with the equally dangerous David Tua instead. Sanders, of course, smashed the younger Klitschko brother to bits to win that belt back in March but the South African has vacated it to pursue the WBC title


This article states Sanders vs Klitschko II was still in the works until Sanders accepted the Jones Jr. offer, which of course fell apart.

[url]http://www.secondsout.com/archive/anthony-evans/q--a-with-corrie-sanders[/url]

A marketable commodity overnight, the 37 year-old Pretoria native was suddenly been linked with the biggest names in boxing and at time of going to press had just been offered a career best purse to fight pound-for-pounder Roy Jones Junior on November 8.

Team Sanders accepted Jones's offer at a day's notice on August 8 but by August 10 Jones let it be known he wanted a ridiculous $20million to face the South African, otherwise he'd drop back down to light heavyweight and face Antonio Tarver is a far less compelling bout.

Before the Jones thing came up it appeared you were heading into a December rematch with Wladimir, providing you both won your interim bouts? How do you see the rematch with Klitschko?

CS: I have a step up on him, mentally. I know he'll fight very differently the second time around. He'll be probably be a completely different fighter with a completely different approach in this fight. But the truth is he can't take my punches and, even if it takes until round seven or eight, I'll land and get to him again. I think next year is my last in boxing.



[url]http://www.secondsout.com/world-boxing-news/world-boxing-news/wladimir-targets-wbo-belt-and-tua[/url]

From Scene:


Of course Tua was interested in a Jones fight too but got froze out of boxing completely until 2005 over his legal issues. Klitschko vs Brewster happened for the WBO title instead.


According to New Zealand's Sunday News, David Tua was in serious negotiations to fight Roy Jones Jr. in 2003, when Jones won the WBA heavyweight title from John Ruiz. The fight talks was broken off when Tua became engaged in his ongoing legal war with his former management team of Kevin Barry and Martin Pugh. The case is still going in a New Zealand high court with appearances set for October 19 and 20.


[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/jones-sanders-radar-article-1.521181[/url]

WBA heavyweight champ Roy Jones Jr. denied reports that he will fight WBO heavyweight champ Corrie Sanders in a pay-per-view event


-In this article, Sanders states his intentions to beat both brothers and give Wlad his rematch....if he beats Vitali. It's also revealed Sanders was out the last half of 2003 with a hand injury.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32407-2004Feb11.html?sections=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/sports/leaguesandsports/mencollegebasketball[/url]

[url]http://www.secondsout.com/world-box...ews/sanders-wants-both-klitschkos-then-retire[/url]

I stayed away from the gym at first but I soon got back into training,” said Sanders. “Money was the motivation and the chance to make millions. My goal is to win the title from Vitali, defend against Wladimir for big money and then retire to be honest.

“This is payback time for me. Money plays a big part but I also want to be the WBC heavyweight champion and a three time champion. I know the WBU and WBO titles are not the best titles to have but the WBC is the most prestigious and I’m very grateful for the opportunity.

Midway through 2003, Sanders, 39-2-(29), badly cut his right hand on a sliding glass door but insists that injury has now fully healed.

“The hand is now fine, perfect,” said Sanders. “I’m in the gym and training normally.”

"When I beat Vitali, I'm sure I'll be the only person that can beat two brothers in the same division," Sanders said Wednesday.

Sanders said if he beats Klitschko he would give a rematch to his brother.

"I believe he wants me again and I think it would be great for the whole world to see again because everybody thought it was a lucky punch," he said.

 

He didn't trigger it. If he did Sanders wouldn't have been free to defend against Roy and Brewster. You know this , why lie?

 

What you just posted defeats your own argument. Sanders was owned by Universum as everything you just posted points out.
It also points out he was steered away from Sanders to take a few bum fights. What would you call that i wonder?? A duck perhaps?
And it when it came to the fight date , he let his brother step and and take revenge for him.
David Haye was forced to sign the same ridiculous contract that stipulated he would have to face Vitali if Wlad got injured or couldn't fight for whatever reason.
So why did Wlad avoid an immediate rematch and then allow Sanders to fight his big brother instead of forcing him to fight him?

 

See post #83

Source?

See post #83.

 

You can post these quote all day , but history proves exactly what Wlad did and didn't do. There was never any negotiations with Tua. It was all lip service. His handles said he needed to 'tip-toe ' his way back and thats exactly what he did.
You can't rewrite history.

 

Everybody...

it's all in post #83.

 

That it? You done?

 

So can't answer why he didn't trigger an immediate rematch?