Marciano's Challengers V Anthony Joshua???

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Rocky's title challengers against the work in progress that is Anthony Joshua?

    Lastarza tko'd in 11rds by Marciano ,against Joshua?

    Charles 1 decisioned over 15rds by Marciano ,against Joshua ?

    Charles2.ko'd in 8rds by Rocky,against Joshua?

    Walcott ko'd in1 rd by Rocky,against Joshua?

    C*ckell tko'd in 9rds by Rocky,against Joshua?

    Moore ko'd in9 rds by Rocky,against Joshua?


    Do any of them beat Joshua ?

    Do any of them fare better against the new kid on the block than they did against Rocky?
     
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  2. Unforgiven

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    I wouldn't give Don Cckell and Roland LaStarza any chance whatsoever.
     
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  3. kingfisher3

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    charles 1 might have a chance.

    moore lastarza and cockell can't really be picked(in case of wlad ko1 yes i'm stupid)
     
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  4. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only one I would pick to do better against Joshua is Walcott. He could make it past the first round. Maybe!
     
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  5. janitor

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    Shall we wait to see how good Joshua actually is before we go wild?

    At time of writing, his best win is Dylan White.
     
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  6. Unforgiven

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    I'd pick Dillian Whyte to beat Don Crockell and Roland LaStarza.
     
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  7. Unforgiven

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    Walcott, Charles and Moore were seriously good fighters.
     
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  8. McGrain

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    The thing is, in the run up to a real fight, i'd be picking Joshua. Someone like Walcott might surprise me, because he was brilliant, but Joshua is huge and hits like a mule kicks and he punches with great form, he has very good technique.

    If your weight advantage is 50lbs and you're good at what you do, you take some beating.

    So, obviously, we'll never know, and i've been wrong loads before, but i'd be picking Joshua. I think most people would be picking Joshua.
     
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  9. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, you'd hope AJ was good enough to defeat "little" guys like that, even as good as they were. There's still a real chance he isn't good enough though.
     
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  10. Fergy

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    Time will tell but for Charles from the first fight I think could take aj to deeper waters. And maybe just maybe Moore could give him a rough night. The rest he stops
     
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  11. Rock0052

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    I've seen crazier upsets, but if these fights were happening today, people would be deluding themselves to think Joshua wouldn't be a big favorite (among the bookies and the experts) in all of them.
     
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  12. janitor

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    Would you expect him to be installed as a favourite over Evander Holyfield (version of the Douglas fight), Chris Byrd, or James Toney necessarily?
     
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    I identified Joshua as somebody who I thought might be something special quite early, but that doesn’t mean that I am going to start making extravagant predictions for him.

    He is still at time of writing very unproven.

    That means that I withhold favouring over a lot of fighters, until the picture becomes much clearer.
     
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  14. McGrain

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    Yes, but you wouldn't be able to hold off making a prediction if he was actually having a fight with Walcott. Or maybe you would, but that's essentially what these threads ask for:

    If Walcott (195lbs) was fighting Joshua (250lbs) this evening on the Golovkin card, who would you pick?
     
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  15. Rock0052

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    I'd expect it. But all that means is more people would be predicting him to win than not, not that he's unbeatable. It's worth noting that even after Douglas' horrendous weigh in, the odds didn't make it to 2-1 Holyfield.

    In real life, it's quite possible someone would upset him (either from Rocky's names or the ones you just listed), but using foresight to pick which one is a tougher proposition.
     
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