Have we seen the best of GGG?

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  1. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was more exceptional than GGG.
     
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  2. Big Bang

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    My GGG 'invincible powerhouse' doubts crept in during the Adama fight, and truly set in stone whilst watching GGG tire trying to put Martin Murray on the canvas. He seems to look unstoppable against a certain type of fighter, yet pretty mediocre against others.
     
  3. Ilesey

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  4. Work the body

    Work the body Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't think Golovkin will be in a hurry to fight him again. Jacobs taller and rangy and he seemed to have trouble with it all night. Canelo will be a completely different fight.
     
  5. like a boss

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    Jacobs was big, strong, well prepared and fought a clever fight. GGG made hard work of it, but prevailed and moves to 37-0.

    Even the very best in the history of the sport had their struggles. I can't think of a single fighter who just absolutely blitzed everyone they ever fought.
     
  6. kirk

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    I think so. The guy is 35 with a lifetime of miles on him, and his opposition will probably remain fairly hard to dominate the way he was dominating the lower level guys. Combine a slight but continuous decline with a slight rise in opposition and it probably averages out to weve seen the best of him. Dont be surprised if he loses in the next 3 fights. I didnt think he would lose until he went to 168 but thats obviously not out of the realm of possibility now.
     
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  7. kirk

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    I dont know man, I see that as a form of damage control. Jacobs was an 8-1 dog for a reason... and as good as Jacobs is (hes decent), it shouldnt have been a toss up fight like that. Golovkin was in 1st gear all night and if he did that because Jacobs style didnt give him the openings he needed or Jacobs power made him gunshy, or simply his age is catching up with him (finding it hard to pull the trigger on the openings he sees, which is classic) thats a noteworthy issue going forward against world class fighters.

    His fight against BJS will say a lot.
     
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  8. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    That fight was an acid test for GGG and he came though it.

    Even the very best in the history of the sport had their struggles. I can't think of a single fighter who just absolutely blitzed everyone they ever fought.
     
  9. kirk

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    I cant think (not saying there isnt one but just that I cant think of one) of a HOF level fighter or above that had a toss up fight with an 8-1 underdog. The best in the sports struggles you mention usually come against other HOF level guys, or super rugged good contenders, or when they themselves are nearing the tail end of their careers, no?

    Or who are these best that had toss up fights against none HOF level challengers? (Im wondering for my own knowledge) Struggles meaning, they won a heavily disputed decision in. Not had jsut had a rough time winng, or a tough time early but knocked their guy out late. But literally had a disputed decision in a fight many people felt they lost in.

    Mayweather Castillo comes to mind... Castillo is a much better fighter than Jacobs though.
     
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  10. DeadLikeMe

    DeadLikeMe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The best that never was
     
  11. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So he's old now. 2 days ago he was this unstoppable god, now at 34 he's too old. A 34 year old Hopkins would've made GGG look about 94. Second solid fighter that could actually box made GGG look limited, but the first was a WW. G has been so used to people coming in with no game plan an folding that he looked lost at times when Jacobs actually circled and was big and long enough to fight back. So much for GGG dominating 168 and up, he'd look average against the best there, and that's why he'll stay at 160 till retirement.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I thought Roy Jones blitzed his way to 50-0 . Even picking up a HW strap along the way without too much struggle.

    Obviously he got a bogus DQ loss at 34- 0 . He over turned that in a spectacular one round ending manner.
     
  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is Jacobs and a Welterweight in Brook really that big a step up though from Geale, Lemiuex, Proksa, Murray, etc. His last 3 fights he's looked noticeably slower and sluggish. Actually he was masking his physical decline which actually started around 4-5 years ago very well. But now he's just much slower, much less explosive than he used to be. He still has that brute strength, jab, chin and technique. But the 3rd gear is gone now.
     
  14. tinman

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    Actually Hopkins started looking "old" right around the time he turned 35. Hopkins turned into a complete spoiler from age 35 on. In his actual prime mid-late 90s he was more aggressive, less cautious, more explosive, faster, vastly bigger gas tank, etc. Everything was better. So um, yea.... no
     
  15. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He may stay undefeated if he goes back down in levels but if I was some of the athletic guys I think the blueprint is there to beat him. So Eubank, Lara, Andrade (not the one that fought Culcay lol) should all be taking real notice.
     
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