Roman Gonzalez is still the best fighter in the world

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I watched the Sky telecast. I'm going to rewatch and rescore later off the HBO telecast. I saw some clear Roman dominance the whole fight with him landing nearly 2 to 1 against Rungvisai. Maybe, I should have given Rungvisai rounds 5 and 10, to make this more like a 7-5 affair, but no way did Roman lose this. Whitaker drawing with Chavez after outlanding him by 91 punches is one of the worst robberies in boxing history. Roman outlanding Rungvisai by 157 punches and losing is what? I can understand if you think Rungvisai's power was worth 2 punches for every one that Roman landed, but I'm hearing from people around here that they think Rungvisai outlanded Roman and that's ridiculous.

    Here's how I saw the fight.

    Gonzalez vs Rungvisai

    R1 10-8 Runvisai SSR scored a knockdown with a body blow.

    R2 10-9 Gonzalez SSR throwing more. Gonzalez picking off shots with arms and gloves, landing more and better shots.

    R3 10-9 Gonzalez Clash of heads leading to a cut by Gonzalez' right eye. Gonzalez landing more and cleaner shots, catching a lot of SSR's punches on forearms and gloves.

    R4 10-9 Gonzalez More head clashing. SSR landing harder, going to the body, but Gonzalez landing more, landing more accurately, doing the cleaner work. SSR trys to bully Gonzalez around the ring with his strength, pushing Gonzalez to the ropes, but Gonzalez is taking little steps back and uppercutting SRR. SRR tries to lean on Gonzalez and smother his work, so Gonzalez moves laterally, side steps, dances around SRR hitting him from all angles, tattooing him in the last 30 seconds of the round.

    R5 10-9 Gonzalez SSR landing the harder bombs doing more damage the first two minutes but in the final minute it's all Gonzalez dancing around him throwing punch after unreturned punch.

    R6 10-8 Gonzalez This round was all Gonzalez bell to bell. First 30 seconds Gonzalez ducks or evades most shots leading into a headbutt. Then Gonzalez beats SSR around the ring with SSR occassionally trying to bull his way out by walking forward and pushing, but not doing anything offensively to score or do damage. Another headbutt at the end of the round and the referee takes a point from SSR.

    R7 10-9 Rungvisai I feel like giving a round to SSR since Roman didn't do as well this round and those heavy hands of SSRs ought to get some credit, even if they don't land very often. They are having an effect. Another headbutt.

    R8 10-9 Rungvisai I can't tell this round. Probably need to see it again. It seemed close. SSR lands harder and Gonzalez lands more and cleaner. SSR was bullying Gonzalez around for the first two minutes, grunting when he punches. Looked like he got in some good body punches.

    R9 10-9 Gonzalez Close. Gonzalez came forward the whole three minutes pushing SSR around the ring. SSR backed up and tried to fight in spots as Gonzalez came in at him. Gonzalez had to work harder, throwing more punches, being busier, but looking the more tired fighter. Nothing flashy or spectacular here. Roman's eye is bleeding bad down his cheek.

    R10 ? I don't know. The first minute they had a good toe to toe exchange and Gonzalez seemed to get the better of it, but SSR got off some really good heavy shots. He's just getting outworked by Gonzalez, taking two to land one. The question is are his shots worth two of Gonzalez? Gonzalez is trying to smother him with output chasing him around the ring, clearly in command, but SSR seems fresher and doesn't give a **** about Gonzalez' shots. He's backing up setting traps and trying to land when Gonzalez comes in. He's having some success, just not a lot.

    R11 10-9 Gonzalez Gonzalez slowing now but still in control. SSR backing up. Not a lot landing since SSR is not accurate enough to hit Gonzalez and Gonzalez is too slow and weary to hit SSR. Gonzalez lands a few more punches, but it's not really much and SSR isn't bothered by them. Maybe, give the round to Gonzalez for ring generalship and dictating the terms of the fight.

    R12 10-9 Gonzalez Big Gonzalez round. SSR running and holding. Gonzalez landing at will. All action coming from Gonzalez.
     
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  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    He just lost to a Thai garbage man who normally fights guys making their debut in Thailand.
     
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  3. Hi-Tek-Lomo

    Hi-Tek-Lomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wonder if Floyd paid off the judges to keep his record in tact?
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    He lost to the #4 in the world rated former champ, who'd just gone 41-1 in his last 42 fights, with 37 KO's in that time. And that was a robbery since he nearly doubled the guy in landed punches.
     
  5. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    Exactly.

    Gonzalez controlled the pace of the fight and was backing up the supposed stronger guy throughout.

    He got royally screwed; proof is the Thai stopped fighting in the 12, yet was grinning from ear to ear at the bell because he knew he had already gotten the decision.

    Disgusting politics, as usual.
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah those big time playas at Nakornloung Promotions are some nefarious mother****ers, they're rolling in all that Super Mart and CP Freshmart dough, and they're always looking to grease some palms.:lol: They're literally a pimple on the ass of Chocolatito's Teiken Promotions which themselves are a pimple on the ass of every other Boxing Promotion.
     
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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    How?

    HBO's hold over boxing is at an all time low right now ..
    In a desperate effort to remain relevant they created him as a #1P4P ATG and sold him as such to the gullible public like you who lapped it up.
    They wouldn't even have mentioned this guy 10 years when ago when they were brimming with top talent and had decent fights on pretty much every month . How many fights do they show a year now.

    It took Mayweather over 5 years and a jump from super feather weight all the way to welter weight before he became P4P#1
    Other guys around now like Loma , Rigo , Linares , Crawford are a level above Roman skill-wise.

    Gonzalez is a fantastic fighter and i have nothing against him , the issue is creating fake news to remain credible. The issue is within clowns like you.
     
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  8. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Yeah, Mayweather had to move up to his 3rd weight class and have 14 title fights going 34-0 before he was considered p4p #1 in late 2005. What was Gonzalez again when they made him #1? Oh yeah, 4th weight class, 16 title fights, 45-0.

    You're talking about 10 years ago. Let's look at the p4p top 10 from 2007.
    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Juan Manuel Marquez
    4. Bernard Hopkins
    5. Joe Calzaghe
    6. Israel Vazquez
    7. Miguel Angel Cotto
    8. Ricky Hatton
    9. Ronald (Winky) Wright
    10. Rafael Marquez
    Alright, Gonzalez isn't as good as the top 4, maybe even top 5. But I think he's better than the last 5.
     
  9. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    STFU!
     
  10. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gonzalez got exposed. He is overrated and you know that.
     
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  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought he was robbed, but no he's not the best fighter in the world, and I've been saying this for a while now. His offensive skill set is definitely impressive, but total package wise, Lomachenko, Crawford, Kovalev, Ward, GGG, are all above him for me. Even Pac is still above Chocolatito for me.
     
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  12. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He never was and never will be. He's great at what he does but when all you can do is go forward I can't call you the best fighter.
     
  13. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    38 of those 42 are bums that's just the fact of it. Rungvisai is nothing special he was just stronger and had a similar gas tank to Gonzalez. If Gonzalez had a back foot game he could of got on the jab and moved around but instead he just did what he always does stand in the pocket and trade blows taking unnecessary punishment.
     
  14. Libertine

    Libertine Active Member Full Member

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    Re-watch round 11, with a world class trainer i reckon the Thai could have scored a near shutout.
     
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  15. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Roman is a Warrior!!! He should of got the nod because of that. Hell of a fight though on both sides! I'm glad I got this PPV, I know most don't say that.